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    34 69.39%
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    2 4.08%
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    4 8.16%
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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    The intent is what makes a crime terrorism. Terrorism need not always include murder, though this is by far its most common instantiation. When an act is committed with the intent to cause fear in order to effect some agenda, it's terrorism. If the main intent is just to blow a bunch of stuff up or kill a bunch of people, it's not terrorism.

    It's unclear in the Oklahoma case whether this was an act of terrorism.

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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric7216 View Post
    Murder.

    Don't we lose something when we make distinctions in a crime? The murdered person is just as dead whether it was a result of terrorism, work-place violence, hate crime, class warfare, victimhood, etc. A life was taken-that should be enough. There are few excuses for taking a life and in this case none of those excuses apply.
    Your question is too broad. Terrorism generally involves murder in the name of a cause. If someone is fired and they believe that murdering their former co-workers in the name of a cause larger than their personal desires, it can be labeled terrorism. Doesn't matter if it's jehad, animal rights or climate change. On the other hand if they are just pissed and want revenge, it's murder.
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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Terrorism is usually defined as killing large amounts of people in an attempt scare the **** out of them as a means to push a certain political agenda. Going full nutjob on your former coworkers is just workplace violence.
    Not when you are obsessed with fanatical Islamic practices such as beheading and screaming: "Allahu Akbar!" while carrying out your acts of murder. That is terrorism.

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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    That's not what I asked.

    I heard the guy was suspended, not fired. Is that inaccurate? I also heard he is a convert to Islam. Is that inaccurate? Is beheading a victim in any way unusual? Do you not think it appropriate to investigate this incident thoroughly? Has the investigation been completed? Why are libs so reluctant to consider the possibility that this assailant might be a jihadi?
    It's an Obama thang. After the Navy Seals took out OBL the Obama administration started pushing the theme: "We got Bin Laden...the war on terrorism is over". That's why the Fort Hood shooting was labeled as workplace violence....and it's why they created the phony "It was da video!" in regards to Benghazi. They just do not want to back down and accept that we are still in a war against fanatical Islamic terrorism.

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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Murder is murder. It doesn't really matter what form it is in, the outcome is the same.
    And terrorism is terrorism. If it's done in the name of a fanatical version of Islam...it's terrorism as well as murder.

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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Clearly you aren't interested in having a serious discussion on the matter. Have a nice day.
    You know a leftwinger has lost an argument when he/she resorts to snarky sarcasm.

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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    You don't have to be a Jihadist to behead someone you know.
    Just ask O.J.
    But then OJ was hopped up on drugs and most likely did not shout "God is great" in Arabic while carrying out his act.

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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Speaking of significant omissions, he did it with a work knife, at work, having just been fired, to a supervisor. Workplace violence, going postal, murder. Call it what you will, but no matter how much you might want it to be so, screaming terrorism doesn't make it so.
    You have to take into consideration why he was fired. He was fired for vocal obsession with jihadi behavior. The 9/11/01 hijackers took over planes using simple box cutters. Do agree that was terrorism? Or do you think it was just "transportation violence"?

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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    He's mentally ill. Religious delusions are common, ask any of the Jesuses sleeping rough under community care.
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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    He's mentally ill. Religious delusions are common, ask any of the Jesuses sleeping rough under community care.
    I really don't care. In my opinion anyone who commits a terrorist act is in fact mentally ill. That does not necessarily mean they cannot distinguish from right and wrong.

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