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  • Going Postal I.E. Work-place violence

    34 69.39%
  • Terrorist attack

    2 4.08%
  • A little of both

    4 8.16%
  • other

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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    I never said it was an act of terrorism. I was merely wondering why liberals refuse to even entertain the possibility.
    I do not think it is liberal refusing to entertain the possibility. Just because a muslim murders someone doesn't make it a terrorist act and so far this beheading case screams someone going postal. Yeah if he was in the middle of worked and for no reason screamed allah akbar and just started killing people left and right it could be argued that it was a terrorist act.
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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    "An Oklahoma prosecutor announced Thursday that he plans to seek the death penalty for Alton Nolen, a man accused of beheading one women and attempting to murder a second. Nolen is a recent convert to Islam and his Facebook posts indicate sympathies for terrorists such as Osama bin Laden. That, and the similarity of his alleged crime to beheadings carried out by ISIS members, has led to speculation in conservative media that Nolen was a "jihadist."

    While it's possible that Nolen's anti-American views were a motivating factor in his alleged crimes, prosecutors so far have said they think Nolen was motivated more by race than religion. The immediate trigger seems to have been anger over losing his job — his extreme, violent reaction could be a sign of mental illness.

    More important, no evidence has emerged of links between Nolen and ISIS or any other militant group. Whether or not Nolen was trying to ape the ISIS beheadings, it appears that he acted alone."
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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    Going Postal I.E. Work-place violence
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    Apparently some of the talk show pundits seem to think getting fired and later returning to your former place of employment to kill your former co-workers is terrorism. Most people would call that going postal or work place violence, not terrorist. Getting pissed off because you lost your job as far as I know are not one of the reasons a terrorist murders someone.
    Based on the limited information, i voted other. Its simply called murder. That the victim was a coworker isnt really important. Im assuming there is more to the story than the person simply got fired and later killed a co-worker.

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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    I'm pretty sure it's just called murder.
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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    Going Postal I.E. Work-place violence
    Terrorist attack
    A little of both
    other
    Apparently some of the talk show pundits seem to think getting fired and later returning to your former place of employment to kill your former co-workers is terrorism. Most people would call that going postal or work place violence, not terrorist. Getting pissed off because you lost your job as far as I know are not one of the reasons a terrorist murders someone.
    IMO, the proper term is "murder", though "going postal" is acceptable as a slang version, but even that glosses over the seriousness. I'd prefer we keep serious issues such as murder labeled seriously as such.

    To me, 'terrorism' involves intent, and perhaps a wider goal, than just the individual action itself. I think 'terror(ism)' is becoming overused much in the same way the word 'abuse' has become overused.
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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    IMO, the proper term is "murder", though "going postal" is acceptable as a slang version, but even that glosses over the seriousness. I'd prefer we keep serious issues such as murder labeled seriously as such.

    To me, 'terrorism' involves intent, and perhaps a wider goal, than just the individual action itself. I think 'terror(ism)' is becoming overused much in the same way the word 'abuse' has become overused.
    It says a lot about out society that we have synonyms for murder the way that Eskimos have a vocabulary for snow and ice.
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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    Depends on how many, 50, national news media star. One or two, murder.
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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    What is it called when people make arguments while omitting significant pieces of information? Dishonesty

    I dont know if what the guy did in oklahoma is terrorism, but its quite possible thats what he meant it to be

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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    Speaking of significant omissions, he did it with a work knife, at work, having just been fired, to a supervisor. Workplace violence, going postal, murder. Call it what you will, but no matter how much you might want it to be so, screaming terrorism doesn't make it so.
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    Re: What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

    What if he says he is doing it for allah or because she is an infidel etc

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