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Thread: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Best excuse ever. CNN round table discussion this afternoon determined that the lapse in security by the Secret Service is...that's right...Bush's fault. It all started when they allowed Bush to land a jet on an aircraft carrier. Been leading up to this ever since.

    Did they mention the fact her predecessor also resigned amid a sex scandal?

    That was also caused by landing a plane on an Aircraft Carrier.



    But you know, it's actually Nixon's fault...he's the one who deliberately slipped his SS detail to go talk with demonstrators at the Washington Monument.

    See? anywhere you look, Obama has someone to blaim
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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I thought the secret service were supposed to have the strength of the hulk and fighting skills of Jackie Chan(okay exaggeration)
    They should have fitness requirements and hand-to-hand fighting skills. Maybe if they had had them they would have been able to catch the guy as he raced across the lawn; instead they pretty well got left in the dust.


    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    but it's surprising that he took one of them down.
    Another member said in another thread that that agent was female, in which case it is not surprising at all.

    BTW if the agent was female the media has done a great job not reporting it, probably because this case already potentially stinks of affirmative action and gender preferences gone awry, and the media wants more women and more minorities to be promoted regardless of qualification. (I concede, however, that 29-year secret service veteran Pierson might have been the best qualified candidate, at least on paper).

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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I agree. Unless she tried to cover it up, or lie -I don't see how she could personally be held responsible for their actions if she wasn't there.
    She could be held personally responsible for not having agents placed strategically around the lawn so as to prevent an intruder from running untouched from the fence through the front door. Having more than one agent at each door is pretty obviously a good idea too. There was clearly a great big gaping hole in the physical placement of agents.

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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Well, it's irrelevant at this point, because she's gone, but this was a big problem IMO. The POTUS has to be protected to the highest degree possible. They didn't do their job. Her losing her job is no different than if this happened in the private sector. A CEO has ownership.
    in her testimony she acknowledged responsibility
    unfortunately, that was about the only fact she seemed to know
    yet another instance confirming Obama is a terrible judge of talent
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    in her testimony she acknowledged responsibility
    unfortunately, that was about the only fact she seemed to know
    yet another instance confirming Obama is a terrible judge of talent
    I was getting squeamish watching her testify; she was clueless. I was waiting for "Derp" to roll trippingly off her tongue. She's probably glad to be gone anyway.

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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I think most of us are shocked that an intruded got into the president's residence. It should never happen, just one mistake like this could be devastating.

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    Yes of course, but not just because of this one incident.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    They should have fitness requirements and hand-to-hand fighting skills. Maybe if they had had them they would have been able to catch the guy as he raced across the lawn; instead they pretty well got left in the dust.



    Another member said in another thread that that agent was female, in which case it is not surprising at all.

    BTW if the agent was female the media has done a great job not reporting it, probably because this case already potentially stinks of affirmative action and gender preferences gone awry, and the media wants more women and more minorities to be promoted regardless of qualification. (I concede, however, that 29-year secret service veteran Pierson might have been the best qualified candidate, at least on paper).
    As an agent of 29 years, do you think she could pass the agencies physical fitness standards?

    If not then how would she be best qualified on paper?

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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    They should have fitness requirements and hand-to-hand fighting skills. Maybe if they had had them they would have been able to catch the guy as he raced across the lawn; instead they pretty well got left in the dust.



    Another member said in another thread that that agent was female, in which case it is not surprising at all.

    BTW if the agent was female the media has done a great job not reporting it, probably because this case already potentially stinks of affirmative action and gender preferences gone awry, and the media wants more women and more minorities to be promoted regardless of qualification. (I concede, however, that 29-year secret service veteran Pierson might have been the best qualified candidate, at least on paper).
    The ss has a physical fitness requirement. However if you simply look at the director, you see it was not enforced.

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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    (post #37):
    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    As an agent of 29 years, do you think she could pass the agencies physical fitness standards?

    If not then how would she be best qualified on paper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    The ss has a physical fitness requirement. However if you simply look at the director, you see it was not enforced.
    Fitness requirements may reasonably be reduced or even eliminated for agents who will never be assigned to bodyguard duty.

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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    Not by regulation. They just do not get enforced. Essentially, pencil whipped

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