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Thread: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    Pierson is not a political appointee. She has been in the Secret Service for over 30 years.

    Not that political appointees are necessarily bad, and the Secret Service appears so broken
    that it might now be time to appoint an outsider to fix it, political or otherwise.
    Ah, someone is finally listening to me. About time!


    NBC: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches


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    (Interim director) Johnson, in announcing Pierson’s resignation on Wednesday, ordered an independent review of the fence-jumping intrusion. He invited the independent panel that will conduct the review to submit names for Pierson’s permanent replacement, including people from outside the Secret Service.

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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Most Americans have a sound bite brain. This is already yesterday's news. But th posturing in congress was epic.
    It was not posturing.

    It was a fully reasonable bipartisan reaction to a crisis which concerns all Americans.

    You are the one who is posturing.

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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I think most of us are shocked that an intruded got into the president's residence. It should never happen, just one mistake like this could be devastating.

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    I say, There also should a criminal investigation to see if it was deliberate.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    It was not posturing.

    It was a fully reasonable bipartisan reaction to a crisis which concerns all Americans.

    You are the one who is posturing.


    Puhleeeeasssseeee....

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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I think most of us are shocked that an intruded got into the president's residence. It should never happen, just one mistake like this could be devastating.

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    Yes, should have been fired, drawn and quartered. And no, I'm not suprised by all this; I fully expect to come up as asecurity issue - just like Benghazi - and how "the Dems are weak on security"... The guy obviously hated Obama.
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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    It appears I am the only one that clicked "No!"
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    Stats come out and always show life getting better. News makes money in making you think its not.
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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    I thought the secret service were supposed to have the strength of the hulk and fighting skills of Jackie Chan(okay exaggeration) but it's surprising that he took one of them down.

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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    It's always a tricky thing.

    I think whenever big things like this happen, it's always natural to want to blame the leader, but it could have been one guy slow on the mark in the control room, or confusion among 3 or 4 front line personnel on exactly where he went.

    And yes sometimes under poor leadership, procedures get lax, things get overlooked.

    I mean I don't think in the immediate past anyone has ever done what that guy did to actually get into the building.

    Ultimately these kinds of firings end up being symbolic and solve very little unless you can clearly show how she was culpable in terms of leadership management.

    I think we need to know more.
    I agree. Unless she tried to cover it up, or lie -I don't see how she could personally be held responsible for their actions if she wasn't there.

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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I agree. Unless she tried to cover it up, or lie -I don't see how she could personally be held responsible for their actions if she wasn't there.
    Well doesn't matter at this point, she resigned so I guess that's the end of that.

    Still though, a massive breach of security that I hope gets fixed up.

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    Re: Should Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Be Fired?

    Well, it's irrelevant at this point, because she's gone, but this was a big problem IMO. The POTUS has to be protected to the highest degree possible. They didn't do their job. Her losing her job is no different than if this happened in the private sector. A CEO has ownership.

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