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    Re: Is Iran a Greater Threat Than ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Conspiracy theories aside, the Saudi government does not fund AlQ. Nor do they send death-row inmates to fight in Syria (that was a load of crap from a conspiracy website). The source for Monte's quote does not appear to be the real wiki and it openly conflated private and state funding.

    Iran is, in fact, the largest source of state funded terrorism.
    Israel with their self-proclaimed chosen mentality is no doubt the greatest threat the world has ever known. Has Iran even crossed a border since the 1800's?

    And don't even try calling me anti-semitic because that victim mentality is too played out.
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    Re: Is Iran a Greater Threat Than ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    From what I've read I tend to agree, but there's nothing to stop the Saudis from funding any group that they want to fund. They are going to do whatever they want to do, they won't be asking for permission.
    So? Unlike Iran, they don't. They share intel and operations against terrorists instead of openly supporting Hamas, Hez and others.

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    Re: Is Iran a Greater Threat Than ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by serato View Post
    Has Iran even crossed a border since the 1800's?
    Yes, via proxies.

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    Re: Is Iran a Greater Threat Than ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Iran is the largest source of state funded terrorism in the world, openly supporting Hamas, Hez and terrorists in Africa. It's in violation of UN treaties regarding uranium enrichment. It shares nuclear and missile tech with North Korea.
    They fund Hezbollah and Hamas, what do these groups have in common?

    They're Shia Islam, which is 15% of Islam! Sunnis who are the majority of Muslims! including the majority in Pakistan! the only Muslim atomic state, view Shia as heretics, worse then us infidels.

    So now who's fighting ISIS? Iran, keep in mind, all the terror groups who've attacked us are Sunni, why would a Shia state hand over a bomb to people who consider them worse then infidels? Iran will not arm anti American groups.... It's not in their interests to do so..... In fact how's a great time to mend fences with Iran so we don't have to keep worrying about them, their anti American rhetoric comes from the fact that 1) we sponsored a king who mistreated the people bad enough they rose up and2) ever since there's been anti Iran rhetoric coming from the White House.
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    Re: Is Iran a Greater Threat Than ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Hamas and Hez are not a threat now?
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but my impression is Hamas and Hezbollah are more or less limited to attacks on Israel and don't have a world-wide agenda.

    As far as I can tell, the main difference between the threat ISIS is posing and the one posed by Iran is that Iran is not likely going to resort to the same kind of guerilla/terrorist/asymmetric warfare as the ISIS fanatics. Iran is not likely going to commit terrorist attacks in Western countries, because if such attacks can be traced back to them, retaliation would cost them much more than they benefit, and if it cannot be traced back to them, there is not much sense in terrorism. The threat by Iran is that if they successfully develop nukes, they can shift the balance of power in the ME and severely damage Western interests there.

    ISIS, on the other side, is a bunch of fanatized radicals who don't really have to care for a state and are not required on the approval of the people they are "governing", and they do have a fanatic global agenda. Their warfare is based on asymmetric tactics and terrorism, and there already is a competition among them about who's the first to commit the next successful big terror attack against the West.
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    Re: Is Iran a Greater Threat Than ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by serato View Post
    Has Iran even crossed a border since the 1800's?
    Yes, and I have one of their uniform shirts in my closet that I traded one of their soldiers for a beer - and that was in Iraq, deep inside Iraq, after we captured them and we were waiting on their ride to the rear area.

    So, again, yes. Plus, they fund, train and equip Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Front and many others. They bring them to Iran, train them, equip them and then send them back. These groups are proxies for Iran.
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    Re: Is Iran a Greater Threat Than ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but my impression is Hamas and Hezbollah are more or less limited to attacks on Israel and don't have a world-wide agenda.
    Iran has the regional/world agenda. Hamas and Hez are puppets of Iran. Does ISIS have puppets in other countries and Africa? I don't think so. I don't think ISIS has any ability to project power whatsoever; Iran does.

    As far as I can tell, the main difference between the threat ISIS is posing and the one posed by Iran is that Iran is not likely going to resort to the same kind of guerilla/terrorist/asymmetric warfare as the ISIS fanatics. Iran is not likely going to commit terrorist attacks in Western countries, because if such attacks can be traced back to them, retaliation would cost them much more than they benefit, and if it cannot be traced back to them, there is not much sense in terrorism. The threat by Iran is that if they successfully develop nukes, they can shift the balance of power in the ME and severely damage Western interests there.
    Iran does these things through the support of terrorist groups. Why do it themselves when they can fund others to commit terrorist acts and claim innocence.

    ISIS, on the other side, is a bunch of fanatized radicals who don't really have to care for a state and are not required on the approval of the people they are "governing", and they do have a fanatic global agenda. Their warfare is based on asymmetric tactics and terrorism, and there already is a competition among them about who's the first to commit the next successful big terror attack against the West.
    Their like Iran's pawns, not like Iran.

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    Re: Is Iran a Greater Threat Than ISIS?

    All Muslim countries are a threat. It's a matter of opinion which is the more immediate threat.
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    Re: Is Iran a Greater Threat Than ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Recently Netanuahu stated at the UN General Assembly that Iran is a greater threat than ISIS. Do you agree with this statement?
    Video can be found here: Netanyahu: Iran poses greater threat than Islamic State
    On a long term strategic basis? Absolutely.

    The Iranian Republic is an established player with it's eyes set on becoming the hegemonic regional power of the Middle East. What's more, they have the position, clout, connections, and raw power to conceivably make it happen.

    While, granted, they are no where near as monstrous as ISIS happens to be in terms of social policy, they are still almost diametrically opposed to the Western World on an ideological basis. They have also made a point of exporting and supporting their own brand of radicalized Shia Islam both in the Middle East and beyond for decades now.

    Every move Iran makes forward, comes at the expense of Israel, the Western World, and any non-Shia nation unfortunate enough to be caught in their path for that exact reason.
    Last edited by Gathomas88; 09-30-14 at 12:08 AM.

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    Re: Is Iran a Greater Threat Than ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Yes, and I have one of their uniform shirts in my closet that I traded one of their soldiers for a beer - and that was in Iraq, deep inside Iraq, after we captured them and we were waiting on their ride to the rear area.

    So, again, yes. Plus, they fund, train and equip Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Front and many others. They bring them to Iran, train them, equip them and then send them back. These groups are proxies for Iran.
    How many Iranian terrorist on the 911 planes? How many Saudis?

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