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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    I agree that there are no easy answers to what's going on there. Sometimes I wonder if a pan-Arab state created after WWI would have been the best option for the Middle East, or if that too would eventually have blown up.
    The answers are easy ... it's the execution that's a bitch.
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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by GBFAN View Post
    The answers are easy ... it's the execution that's a bitch.
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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Reading comprehension issues? The subject is ISIS (note my reference to crazy Islamists), not every single person in a Muslim society. ISIS members are the terrorists. And yes, I would turn every single one of them into dust. In a heart beat. I'd take no prisoners. To me, if you're going to war, then kill your enemy.
    Then perhaps you can clarify this part of your comment?

    And we aren't going to end this war, because we dont have the stomach to do what it takes)
    What will it take?
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    So we can learn to pick ourselves up.

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Its been 13 years since 9/11 and yet it seems there are now more terrorists than ever before. Can this war be won? What are your thoughts on this? Are the governments of the West doing the right things or are they making the situation worse?

    The war will be won. Its a matter of who has the will and resources to see it through. The terrorists want to kill us and I think have proved that they're serious about their goals.

    No, we're not doing the right things. I think what we will do is show the people who are polling for this latest action some response while those actions are popular and then we'll discontinue until there is another threat brought to light by the media or we're attacked again.

    There may have been some things we've done to make things worse. I don't see how we can change those things to the satisfaction of those sworn to destroy us. I think one of the things we've done is support Israel.
    As for me, I dont want to see another American solider or civilian killed in a pointless war with no end. The West needs to stop minding the business of other countries. No more overseas military bases or occupation- if these Islamists want to live according to their religion then I say let them do it. These very governments like Saudi Arabia, who we are fighting with to maintain their status quo over there are the very people who bankroll these terrorists. The US has got the largest shale oil deposits in the world- more than the entire middle east combined, why not spend billions in developing these fields and get oil form then instead of letting the Arabs do it and paying them for it?
    I don't want any more blood or money spent until or unless we're committed to seek an outcome that will eliminate the threat and I am quite confident that we will not do that. So we need to stay home.
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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Its been 13 years since 9/11 and yet it seems there are now more terrorists than ever before. Can this war be won? What are your thoughts on this? Are the governments of the West doing the right things or are they making the situation worse?

    As for me, I dont want to see another American solider or civilian killed in a pointless war with no end. The West needs to stop minding the business of other countries. No more overseas military bases or occupation- if these Islamists want to live according to their religion then I say let them do it. These very governments like Saudi Arabia, who we are fighting with to maintain their status quo over there are the very people who bankroll these terrorists. The US has got the largest shale oil deposits in the world- more than the entire middle east combined, why not spend billions in developing these fields and get oil form then instead of letting the Arabs do it and paying them for it?
    True on our sources of energy. This nation if it wanted to could be totally energy self sufficient in 5 to 10 years. That would mean no more trade deficits amounting to between 500 million to a billion dollars going to pay for oil and the like from the middle east. No more having to keep the sea lanes open so we can receive that oil. Think of all the jobs that would be created here in the good old USA. The money now going to other countries to help their economy and create jobs for them would be spent here to do the same for us. It is a win, win situation, but in the game of both domestic and geopolitics it will not happen.

    No, I do not think the war on terrorism can be won. Our best hope is to contain it. If there is a will for some terrorist, individual or organization that wants to do harm here, they can. Especially if they are willing to die. Today, it is more organizations than countries although countries as you stated back the terrorist if it suits their needs.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    True on our sources of energy. This nation if it wanted to could be totally energy self sufficient in 5 to 10 years. That would mean no more trade deficits amounting to between 500 million to a billion dollars going to pay for oil and the like from the middle east. No more having to keep the sea lanes open so we can receive that oil. Think of all the jobs that would be created here in the good old USA. The money now going to other countries to help their economy and create jobs for them would be spent here to do the same for us. It is a win, win situation, but in the game of both domestic and geopolitics it will not happen.

    No, I do not think the war on terrorism can be won. Our best hope is to contain it. If there is a will for some terrorist, individual or organization that wants to do harm here, they can. Especially if they are willing to die. Today, it is more organizations than countries although countries as you stated back the terrorist if it suits their needs.
    I meant 500 billion, not million
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Terror is an emotion. It's with us for life.


    Terrorism is a matter of legal definition. It is a tactic. One that has been in use, so far as I know, since pre history. Even God is in on the act of terrorism.

    So when will it end?


    When the human race expires.
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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    See edit.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Pakistan is worrysome, I agree. But then again there is little threat that Pakistani nuclear weapons will actually fall into the hands of terrorists. Sure parts of Pakistan are unstable, but then again 2014 report: Pakistan ‘most improved’ in nuclear security, India not so – The Express Tribune
    The stability of Pakistan's government sways back and forth based on who's in charge. Under Musharraf the country was doing okay (at least it didn't give the world too much reason to start chewing its fingernails). After Musharaff? Ehh, not so much. That's just how non-Democracies roll. As long as Pakistan's government can't exercise control over it's entire area it's a serious cause for concern. As for nuclear security I'll be happier when Pakistan moves up into one of those lighter blue colors. Australia, Canada, Norway, France and Iceland are more secure than us? Jesus, aren't we better than Australia at anything?

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Terrorism is a tactic. You can't defeat a tactic. So long as there are people who don't have any other options, guerrilla tactics and violence will be the resort they turn to. What will end the current drop of Jihadist terrorism will be the Middle East joining the modern world. When the people have sovereignty, security, wealth, and secularism like the west, they will no longer turn to this last resort.
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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I dont care how crazy Islamists live in their societies, when they are muslim societies, since that is a part of what has produced them, but they have brought it to western societies, and they are a scourge. Imo, it is a shame that we can't turn them into dust. Every single one.

    (And we aren't going to end this war, because we dont have the stomach to do what it takes)
    It only takes three posts before genocide of two billion people is advocated to fight terrorism..and gets four 'likes.'.....

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