View Poll Results: What Should We Do To End The Terror War?

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  • The West is doing the right thing.

    6 8.82%
  • We need more WAAAUGH! We need to bomb more! Boots on the ground!

    6 8.82%
  • The West needs to change their foreign policy. Stop meddling in other countries.

    38 55.88%
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    18 26.47%
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Thread: How Do We End The War on Terror?

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Well, what the Founders' views on "religious freedoms" were are not really the same. All of the Founders were of Christian background, if not faith. Some were Diests and Atheists, but all saw America as a nation of Christians and Christian values. There were no Mulsims, Buddists, Hindus, Wiccans, Shintoists anywhere to be found running anything in the colonies. However, there were all the pagan Amerindian tribes, who's religion was usually based on finding one's own "magic." The majority of the early Western Americans did their level best to rid the Amerindians of their pagan religions. However, it was never the Islamic "convert or die."

    In fact the Religious freedom the Founders were concerned with was that of Catholics/Protestants governments and Kingdoms running the nation. Islam was of no importance then.

    Yes, yes, Chistains and Westerners have been fighting each other, like every other people on the planet since the beginning of time.

    But, where are the Christian terror groups today??? Are there even any to speak of? Maybe the IRA?

    As far as nationbuilding and support to Islamic peoples over time---It's not a right/wrong idea---it is a stategy of taking the fight to the enemy instead of fighting him here on US soil. Allowing large numbers of any Islamic people in of any sect (but particularly Sunni and Shia)---is asking for trouble.

    There are good Mulsims in the US. One college professor was an Iranian who fled after the Revolution in 1979. Even though is first name is Mohammed---he is no radical---and not even a flamming liberal.

    So America should no more tolerate Islam, than the Spanish tolerated the pagan Aztec religion that sacrificed their enemies on the tops of temples.


    Here is the released domestic terrorist threat according to the FBI, and no surprise its anyone pertaining to alternate ideas of the government and does not mention Islamic fundamentalists. FBI National Domestic Threat Assessment Omits Islamist Terrorism | Washington Free Beacon P.S they refer to american militias, what they are actually saying is constitutionally ordained gun owners that is a legal practice according to the second ammendment

    FBI Says Americans More Dangerous Than ISIS Invasion : PatriotUpdate.com #patriotupdate @patriotupdate

    Here's a more recent one where an fbi director actually says americans are more of a domestic threat then ISIS.

    As for your rant on how the founding fathers were only really for rights according to christians and christian belief

    2. “The rights [to religious freedom] are of the natural rights of mankind, and … if any act shall be … passed to repeal [an act granting those rights] or to narrow its operation, such act will be an infringement of natural right.” – Thomas Jefferson, Statute for Religious Freedom, 1779. Papers, 2:546

    “The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.” – Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, 1781-82

    Just a couple quotes from thomas jefferson on religious freedom, o yeah and he also owned a qu'ran and read it and studied it and appreciated it for what it was worth. You are systematically demonizing an entire group of people based on the religion of a few extremists. Still you have not proven anything to me about how our foreign policy does not create these groups. You have said nothing besides some anti-islamic propaganda

    The minute we start policing people on religion is the minute we start taking away the bill of rights even more. The more we do this the worse our country spins out of control. Lets bring our troops home and focus on the problems here before our country is bankrupted. We can not finance this, there is no way we can finance this, we have been financing both sides for over 10 years and its time to stop. The problem is not islam, the problem is not america but the bureaucrats that run this country and their connections with special interest groups and private bankers. If you want me to show you articles on who is financing ISIS and who is financing Al-Qaeda and exactly what department of our government is responisble for it then i will but the worse thing we can possibly do is advocate for the restrictions on our constitutional rights of freedom of religion. Once we target islam, we target christians and every other religion in this great country, once we target political thought from different cultures we target political thought of the constitution .

    My answer is to end all of this to show them through enlightenment rather then force that freedom and prosperity is something to emulate, but the minute we do it by force we create chaos. Hence why a preemptive strike or nation building as you said,on islam is creating the fundamentalist radicals is a detrimental cause. It is unconstitutional and destructive to our quest for world peace and world prosperity

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Declare it's over and let the Middle East clean up their own messes.

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    They've interviewed jihadists and they said they just want some help and to be left alone, so they play airplane simulator and are really good at it. That attracts the attention they want. Worse than a bunch of 15 year old girls

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