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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    We should be asking that question elsewhere. On one side of the Islamic State is the worlds fourth largest army, on their other side is NATO's second largest army, neither of which have lifted very much at all. Together they could cause us to be asking, Islamic State! What Islamic State?

    But I suppose, any port in a storm when criticism of Obama is the objective.
    Ok! We heard you the first 17 times you said that!
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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ok! We heard you the first 17 times you said that!
    Then stop bitching that the US isn't launching a full scale war again in the ME, and lean on SA and the Turk's! And it's been 14, can't you even get that straight?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Then stop bitching that the US isn't launching a full scale war again in the ME, and lean on SA and the Turk's! And it's been 14, can't you even get that straight?
    Who's bitching? I'm only pointing out that this is a half-assed attempt at fighting ISIS. Blame who you want, but it is what is.
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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Who's bitching? I'm only pointing out that this is a half-assed attempt at fighting ISIS. Blame who you want, but it is what is.
    And I'm only pointing out that the Saudis and the Turks have a no-assed attempt at fighting the Islamic State menacing their back yards. So I would prefer that Obama didn't even do a half-assed attempt at it.
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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And I'm only pointing out that the Saudis and the Turks have a no-assed attempt at fighting the Islamic State menacing their back yards. So I would prefer that Obama didn't even do a half-assed attempt at it.
    And, covering for Obama. Have you noticed the thread topic?
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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, covering for Obama. Have you noticed the thread topic?
    Wtf are you talking about dude!!?? I just criticized Obama for doing a half measure, because I want him to do NO measure. Why don't you understand that. As long as you can criticise Obama, your blood sugars are level and you can make it through another day. Why in the hell isn't Turkey and Saudi Arabia crushing the Islamic State? And why in the hell do you want Obama to commit to another war in the ME?
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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wtf are you talking about dude!!?? I just criticized Obama for doing a half measure, because I want him to do NO measure. Why don't you understand that. As long as you can criticise Obama, your blood sugars are level and you can make it through another day. Why in the hell isn't Turkey and Saudi Arabia crushing the Islamic State? And why in the hell do you want Obama to commit to another war in the ME?
    Personally, I don't. I don't think we should have been in any of the other ME wars either. However, we all know that Turkey and Saudi Arabia aren't going to do a damn thing about ISIL, any more than Iraq, Iran or Syria would without outside military support. You don't see anyone in Europe stepping up to do the job, do you? As much as I don't think it's our job, a lot of what we've done in the ME since the 1950s has ultimately brought about radical Islamic extremists and produced ISIL. Someone has to do something, it won't go away on its own.
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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Personally, I don't. I don't think we should have been in any of the other ME wars either. However, we all know that Turkey and Saudi Arabia aren't going to do a damn thing about ISIL, any more than Iraq, Iran or Syria would without outside military support. You don't see anyone in Europe stepping up to do the job, do you? As much as I don't think it's our job, a lot of what we've done in the ME since the 1950s has ultimately brought about radical Islamic extremists and produced ISIL. Someone has to do something, it won't go away on its own.
    Ok, I guess your saying that we ****ed the ME up, so it falls on us to fix it. This is a problem for the powers surrounding the problematic State to deal with. They could crush the Islamic State if they see it as a problem.

    Overwhelming percentages of Muslims in many countries want Islamic law (sharia) to be the official law of the land, according to a worldwide survey by the Pew Research Center.

    How is this in conflict with the Islamic State?
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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    I just heard last night that Turkey won't enter into the fray seriously, till ISIL eliminates the PKK (Kurds), then they'll get rid of ISIL from their area.

    What a mess.
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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "True. Obama gave away a victory to appease his base. And because it mirrors his belief that we need to be taken down so we are just like all other nations."

    I am generous. You are forgiven. Why, in your opinion, did he cut and run?

    You're opinion is wrong. We don't own Iraq. Iraqis do. It is their charge to defend it. They had the training, the technical support, and the firepower. Iraq isn't defending Iraq. No matter how long we stayed, this was the outcome. It is disenfranchised Sunnis who are fueling this. Without them, Isis is toast. We destabilized and opened the door for this, not to mention that we helped ISIS early on (with republican backing to boot). It has nothing to do with the timely handing over Iraq to Iraq.

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