View Poll Results: What Should We Do To End The Terror War?

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    I think the results speak for themselves, and the result was/is as much or more misery as under Saddam.
    Yeah?

    Where are the torture camps today?
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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Sorry, Bush did in fact lie, and that's the history of the Iraq war, while I understand the difficulty in you particularly accepting that truth, it's irrelevant. And your simply wrong, that it was Democratic Party politics.
    Really. A report by Democrats that exonerates Democrats for making the exact same claims as the Bush administration but instead finds fault with that administration and accuses it of dishonesty in a Presidential election year isn't Democrat Party Politics.


    you just keep on telling yourself that. The administration was wrong, but it did not lie.

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    How Do We Win The War on Terror?

    How do we win the war on terror? What is the war on terror?

    Here are some ideas for discussion.

    I believe the war is a war against 7th century Islam. To win it we have to isolate it, to destroy those who are actively spreading Islam through terror and intimidation. We will need to help it undergo a reformation and to separate the politics of Islam from the religion of Islam.

    In the US we need to methodically work our way through Islamists, revoking visas and, in some cases perhaps revoking citizenship. We need to stop Islamists from turning violent prisoners into violent adherents to the religion of peace. Muslims must be watched by our intelligence agencies and, once identified as problematical by our intelligence agencies then they should be watched by our police agencies.

    We need Congress to declare war on Islam not on its tactic of terror. We need to close our borders.

    We need to let the Islamist nations know that an attack on the US will result in the complete and utter destruction of every Islamic holy place, school and mosque in their countries. We need to publish a **** list. A country that is on our **** list will receive nothing from us. No American can buy goods from a country on our **** list. No American may travel to a country on our **** list. Any American who does trade or travel will go to prison for a first offense and have citizenship revoked for a subsequent offense.

    We will not help in any way. We will not help if there is a natural disaster.

    We need to call off Obama's war on industry, especially energy industries. A good first step to winning the war on Islam may be to boot Obama and his family out of the country. He is an Islamofascist supporter. One of the Islamist countries will be glad to have him.

    Back to energy. We need to become the world's largest producer and exporter of energy. We have coal, oil, and natural gas. We need to give scientific prizes in each category for the best ways to use each. We need to design and give away nuclear power plants of at least three sizes. The smallest should provide power for a large building. The largest for a large fraction of a city.

    Then we need to identify all politicians in this country who are Islamofascist supporters. They need to go. I suggest holding them in the Guantanamo Bay detention camp until after we win the war. It will have to be significantly enlarged.

    That is enough for starters.

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    Re: How Do We Win The War on Terror?

    I suspect the answer has something to do with taking off the gloves. Easy enough for savages to boast and strut and howl for more infidel blood, while they murder defenseless people. Not so easy to feel belligerent, when your would-be victims decide to come for you, and start spilling your blood, by the thousands of gallons, using very powerful weapons you have no answer for at all. People tend to lose their heart for fighting when they are being beaten to a pulp, but are helpless to stop the beating.

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No he didn't - because we weren't there for the oil. As is obvious to anyone with the ability to notice that we did not subsequently take it.
    I find it rather boring the way some people go on and on with total nonsense that is so visibly absurd for anyone not pathologically selective in their reading.

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Come on dude. How many times have I posted that link???? Of course oil is the chief reason the US is in the ME. Now then, what I said was that George Bush did not include oil as one of his stated reasons for going to war in Iraq.

    But here, this ones even better.

    "People say we're not fighting for oil. Of course we are. They talk about America's national interest. What the hell do you think they're talking about? We're not there for figs."

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Really. A report by Democrats that exonerates Democrats for making the exact same claims as the Bush administration but instead finds fault with that administration and accuses it of dishonesty in a Presidential election year isn't Democrat Party Politics.


    you just keep on telling yourself that. The administration was wrong, but it did not lie.
    They were bi-partisan reports. Which concluded a dozen claims about Iraq, and the threat Iraq posed to Americans, that were lies, not substantiated by the available intelligence. The DS memo confirmed the same. Intelligence was being manipulated to fit BushCo's war policy in a deliberate attempt to deceive Americans into supporting what turned out to be both a colossal failure, and recognized now by a majority of Americans as a mistake. So keep on lying to yourself CP.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    They were bi-partisan reports.
    care to cite the vote records. ?

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    care to cite the vote records. ?
    I did in post 348.

    The following nine Republicans were members of the Committee at the time the investigation was launched: Committee Chairman C. Patrick Roberts (R-KS), Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), R. Michael DeWine (R-OH), Christopher S. "Kit" Bond (R-MO), C. Trent Lott (R-MS), Olympia J. Snowe (R-ME), Charles Hagel (R-NE), C. Saxby Chambliss (R-GA), and John W. Warner (R-VA).

    The following eight Democrats made up the rest of the Committee: Vice-Chairman John D. "Jay" Rockefeller IV (D-WV), Carl Levin (D-MI), Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), Ronald L. Wyden (D-OR), Richard J. Durbin (D-IL), B. Evans "Evan" Bayh III (D-IN), Johnny R. "John" Edwards (D-NC), and Barbara A. Mikulski (D-MD).
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    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I did in post 348.

    The following nine Republicans were members of the Committee at the time the investigation was launched: Committee Chairman C. Patrick Roberts (R-KS), Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), R. Michael DeWine (R-OH), Christopher S. "Kit" Bond (R-MO), C. Trent Lott (R-MS), Olympia J. Snowe (R-ME), Charles Hagel (R-NE), C. Saxby Chambliss (R-GA), and John W. Warner (R-VA).

    The following eight Democrats made up the rest of the Committee: Vice-Chairman John D. "Jay" Rockefeller IV (D-WV), Carl Levin (D-MI), Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), Ronald L. Wyden (D-OR), Richard J. Durbin (D-IL), B. Evans "Evan" Bayh III (D-IN), Johnny R. "John" Edwards (D-NC), and Barbara A. Mikulski (D-MD).
    That is not the same as the votes

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