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  • The West needs to change their foreign policy. Stop meddling in other countries.

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Thread: How Do We End The War on Terror?

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Did you read the last part of the article you cited?



    There you go, the west are the ones encouraging all this because of their meddling.
    It points towards the West how exactly? In what dreamworld? On what planet?
    You're like a robot with no way of thinking on its own spreading the same absurd lines over and over again with no connection to the evidence that is presented in front of him. Your beliefs are wrong, your claims are wrong - the West meddling in the Mideast is not the reason for terrorism and surrendering to it is not the solution.
    Figure it out and carry on already.
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    Re: How Do We Win The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    1) Stop funding and arming the terrorists,

    2) Stop bombing and manipulating foreign nations - period.

    2) Stop doing business with the Saudi's and other supporters of terrorism.

    3) Bring the troops home,

    4) Cease immigration of muslims - period. Europe has a much larger problem in this regard, but stop the importation of muslims, and if anyone who is currently here proves to represent any threat or radicalism - revoke their citizenship and deport them.

    5) Secure our own borders.

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    Numbers 4 and 5 appeal to me. Five is the most important step we must take if the nation is to survive. Four needs to be increased to making the additional effort to find and deport the 20-30 million illegal aliens who have invaded the nation.

    Becoming energy independent by allowing the free market to thrive will be necessary before we can reduce the use of our military as you desire.

    Thank you for your post.

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    It points towards the West how exactly? In what dreamworld? On what planet?
    This planet. Earth. Something called reality.

    You're like a robot with no way of thinking on its own spreading the same absurd lines over and over again with no connection to the evidence that is presented in front of him. Your beliefs are wrong, your claims are wrong
    My claims are backed up by reason. By logic. By history.

    I dont know where you get your claims from. Youre as fanatical as these terrorists.

    the West meddling in the Mideast is not the reason for terrorism
    It absolutely is. Where was ISIS before the invasion of Iraq? Where was Al Qaeda before the US started supporting Isreal or stationing our troops in Saudi Arabia?

    Figure it out and carry on already.
    I have figured it out. The sad part is people like you (and Obama) have not.

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    This planet. Earth. Something called reality.
    Something I'm afraid you share no connection with considering your comments.

    It absolutely is. Where was ISIS before the invasion of Iraq? Where was Al Qaeda before the US started supporting Isreal or stationing our troops in Saudi Arabia?
    That would be Israel and yes terrorism has existed before it so there you have it.
    Terrorism always existed and will always exist and the fact that even Indonesia was targeted by it is a cutting evidence that your claims are bollocks.

    I have figured it out. The sad part is people like you (and Obama) have not.
    So sad I'm going to drop on my knees and start crying. Any moment now.
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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    It could be one of the reasons but let's not ignore the fact that terrorism targets all kind of factions for all kind of reasons.
    Your expectations that if you don't get involved with the countries the terrorism origins in it won't be reaching you in the near future are simply detached from reality.
    Name me a country that has undergone an Islamic terror attack that hasnt meddled in a Muslim country.

    I presented it as the conclusive solution to eradicate it from the said radical society.
    But you contradicted yourself since you then claim in cannot be done. You have a very strange logic.

    Believing it can be done is silly. It cannot be done.
    Do entertain us however and tell us why and how you believe it can be done.
    My way is even easier. Stop occupying other people. Mind your own business.

    You haven't listed crimes you have listed actions that would be considered crimes under certain circumstances, whilst on the other hand terrorism, murder, thievery and so on are types of crimes.
    Killing people by bombing or invading their land isnt a crime? Thats a wonderful sense of logic you have there.

    So was Indonesia. But Indonesia is under threat by Islamic terrorism. Did Indonesia occupy anyone lately?
    Indonesia has been dealing with terrorists within their own borders for a long time because of government crackdowns against their own homegrown radicals like JI. Thats their business since they themselves are a Muslim country. Every country has their own homegrown radicals but they dont export it unless there is an occupation by another power.

    No. I support targeting the terrorists in wider, stronger means.
    Explain further. Because everything that the west could have done is already being done.

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    From what I can see, the only link to a country I listed was Sweden and an (supposed) aborted attempt in Norway. And that guy (in Sweden) was even booted out of his own mosque for his views...so clearly he was just a whacko (from your link):

    ' During Ramadan in 2007, after al-Abdaly tried to recruit other Muslims who shared his political views when he preached at the Luton mosque he stormed out when confronted about his beliefs[4] and was forbidden to return.'

    And there is no evidence that it was ordered by al Qaeda.


    And the 'aborted' attack in Norway means ZIP to me....I don't trust authorities saying they stopped attacks for one second. Could be just police trying to look good for their superiors OR politicians looking for justification for their actions.
    So, you proved ZERO attacks by al Qaeda against one country I mentioned.

    BTW - I point out that a non-Muslim in Norway killed far more people in a terrorist attack then any Muslim...so your theory there goes right out the window.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks



    Now, are you going to answer my question or not?

    You said:

    'Your expectations that if you don't get involved with the countries the terrorism origins in it won't be reaching you in the near future are simply detached from reality.''

    Now, where are your links that show unbiased, factual proof of your matter-of-fact statement?
    Last edited by DA60; 09-28-14 at 12:52 PM.

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Name me a country that has undergone an Islamic terror attack that hasnt meddled in a Muslim country.


    But you contradicted yourself since you then claim in cannot be done. You have a very strange logic.


    My way is even easier. Stop occupying other people. Mind your own business.


    Killing people by bombing or invading their land isnt a crime? Thats a wonderful sense of logic you have there.


    Indonesia has been dealing with terrorists within their own borders for a long time because of government crackdowns against their own homegrown radicals like JI. Thats their business since they themselves are a Muslim country. Every country has their own homegrown radicals but they dont export it unless there is an occupation by another power.


    Explain further. Because everything that the west could have done is already being done.

    Bangladesh would be one. Thailand would be another.


    Islamists Murder 5 Thai Buddhist Monks
    Rebels Kill Five Buddhists in Southern Thailand.....Thursday, February 03, 2011.....

    VoA News: Thai police say suspected Muslim separatists have shot and killed five Buddhists in a violent region of southern Thailand. Police officials say gunmen in a pickup truck opened fire on the five Thursday while they sat outside a store in insurgency-plagued Pattani province. At least two people were injured.

    Pattani is one of three Muslim-majority provinces in southern Thailand, where more than 4,300 people have been killed since a Muslim-led insurgency began in 2004. The region has been plagued by deadly attacks in recent weeks, including an assault on a military base last week.....snip~

    Islamists Murder 5 Thai Buddhist Monks - War On Terror News

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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    And there is no evidence that it was ordered by al Qaeda.
    Wait, are you asking for attacks just by al-Qaeda, or for any Islamic terror attacks in general? Those are two different questions.
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    Re: How Do We End The War on Terror?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Name me a country that has undergone an Islamic terror attack that hasnt meddled in a Muslim country.
    Hilarious. I just did. Post #101 names a lot and I bet you can find way more by looking here:
    List of Islamic terrorist attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    That you need me to name it to you and that you do not know of the existence of such attacks yet choose to debate it is insane.

    My way is even easier. Stop occupying other people. Mind your own business.
    And get killed for different reasons. Good luck with that, you might as well commit suicide if this is your "way".

    Killing people by bombing or invading their land isnt a crime? Thats a wonderful sense of logic you have there.
    Depends on the circumstance.
    Killing people isn't always a crime.
    You attack a person with a knife he pulls a gun and shoots you down - a crime? Not so much.
    Murder's a crime. Thievery's a crime. Terrorism's a crime.

    Indonesia has been dealing with terrorists within their own borders for a long time because of government crackdowns against their own homegrown radicals like JI. Thats their business since they themselves are a Muslim country. Every country has their own homegrown radicals but they dont export it unless there is an occupation by another power.
    Hilarious. You'd go so far to blame ****ing Indonesia for meddling with terrorists instead of admitting that your claim is bollocks. Simply hilarious.

    Explain further. Because everything that the west could have done is already being done.
    More planes, more countries involved and more attacks targeting the terrorists and killing a larger sum of them.
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