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    What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    I watched this: http://www.c-span.org/video/?321656-...ola-conference

    What happens if the Ebola virus spreads in the West? Like through Greece, Denmark, Poland, Italy, Spain, Germany, France, the United Kingdom, Canada and the United States. This outbreak is already the worst on record. President Obama, the U.N. General Secretary, the U.N. Security Council, the C.D.C., and the World Health Organization have all sounded the alarm about the Ebola virus.

    The virus is outpacing the global response, the mortality rate is over 70%, and is spread through bodily fluids.

    So what happens if Ebola spreads into the West?

    1) Less than 100 dead, minimal government intervention
    2) More than 100 dead, moderate government intervention
    3) More than 1,000 dead, large government intervention
    4) More than 1,000,000 dead, extreme government intervention

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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    I watched this: http://www.c-span.org/video/?321656-...ola-conference

    What happens if the Ebola virus spreads in the West? Like through Greece, Denmark, Poland, Italy, Spain, Germany, France, the United Kingdom, Canada and the United States. This outbreak is already the worst on record. President Obama, the U.N. General Secretary, the U.N. Security Council, the C.D.C., and the World Health Organization have all sounded the alarm about the Ebola virus.

    The virus is outpacing the global response, the mortality rate is over 70%, and is spread through bodily fluids.

    So what happens if Ebola spreads into the West?

    1) Less than 100 dead, minimal government intervention
    2) More than 100 dead, moderate government intervention
    3) More than 1,000 dead, large government intervention
    4) More than 1,000,000 dead, extreme government intervention
    shouldn't we jump to large or extreme intervention after learning of the 1st cases to try and prevent the larger numbers?

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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    That would cause thousands of people to lose their lives. This outbreak is on of the worst that has ever affected the world.

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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    shouldn't we jump to large or extreme intervention after learning of the 1st cases to try and prevent the larger numbers?
    That's what would happen. Major (or "extreme" as the poll goes) government intervention would be there from the start as it should be.
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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    shouldn't we jump to large or extreme intervention after learning of the 1st cases to try and prevent the larger numbers?
    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    That's what would happen. Major (or "extreme" as the poll goes) government intervention would be there from the start as it should be.
    When I said this:

    1) Less than 100 dead, minimal government intervention
    2) More than 100 dead, moderate government intervention
    3) More than 1,000 dead, large government intervention
    4) More than 1,000,000 dead, extreme government intervention
    Here's what I'm saying: take #1 for instance, what I mean by 'minimal government intervention' is the amount of people the government directly interacts with by the protocols they would be following. Like, say a small town (like the one I live in est. 3,600 people) is the source of the outbreak, they would quarantine the town, not everyone in the United States. But if the outbreak originated from say, the Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport, which would mean that it would spread far and wide inside the U.S., nation wide quarantine protocols would be initiated, as in, the government would directly interact with every American citizen that they came into contact with.

    My apologies for the confusion.

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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    When I said this:



    Here's what I'm saying: take #1 for instance, what I mean by 'minimal government intervention' is the amount of people the government directly interacts with by the protocols they would be following. Like, say a small town (like the one I live in est. 3,600 people) is the source of the outbreak, they would quarantine the town, not everyone in the United States. But if the outbreak originated from say, the Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport, which would mean that it would spread far and wide inside the U.S., nation wide quarantine protocols would be initiated, as in, the government would directly interact with every American citizen that they came into contact with.

    My apologies for the confusion.
    Oh, that makes more sense.
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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    We don't quarantine anymore and people here will not stay put anyway. In the case of ebola, the survivalists will go to their bunkers and the infected will be crying about their civil rights being violated.

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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by greatar4 View Post
    That would cause thousands of people to lose their lives. This outbreak is on of the worst that has ever affected the world.

    It's not even remotely close to that.

    Previous outbreaks historically of measles, smallpox, bubonic plague, cholera, yellow fever, influenza, etc killed hundreds of thousands to millions.

    Ebola is not as easily spread as any of those. And in a country with better sanitation and medical practices and less uneducated family involvement, it could be pretty well contained in its present state.

    The sad thing however, would be that it would then become endemic in the US and could crop up again at any time. And it's still a horrible disease.

    This happened with bubonic plague. It still circulates here out West in rodent populations. Fortunately we have a cure for the plague.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Interesting article about CDC projections....

    CDC: Ebola Could Infect 1.4 M by 2015

    If the battle to contain/combat Ebola aggressively continues, CDC projections estimate that the crisis will reach a tipping point in January 2015 and start to recede from that point on.


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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    We don't quarantine anymore and people here will not stay put anyway. In the case of ebola, the survivalists will go to their bunkers and the infected will be crying about their civil rights being violated.
    ???? Seriously? What do you think the govt's plans consist of? At nearly every community and state and the fed level.

    Quarantine and ALL the removal of rights that that entails including martial law and shooting people that break quarantine. It will be incredibly ugly and it wont even work in a wide-spread airborne epidemic but that doesnt mean that those arent the plans and they'll still attempt it before failing.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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