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Thread: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    No I havent read anything about Europe and yes, the potential exists for it to arrive there too. If they do find it there, I dont believe that they will hide it from the media. It's a good question tho.

    OTOH I have been reading post-apocalyptic fiction for 40 years and have a very good idea of what can happen. My favorite book is The Stand by Stephen King and it started my fascination with epidemiology, which I also started studying (as a layman) after loving microbiology in college.
    on The Stand! Have you seen the movie "Contagion?" Scary!

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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    on The Stand! Have you seen the movie "Contagion?" Scary!
    Yes. And not a bad representation.

    IMO, cautionary.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    It hasnt mutated significantly at all. Where did you read that? It is spreading faster than expected.
    Why do you think that is?

    "Constant mutation and adaptation are the survival mechanisms of viruses and other microbes," she said. "We must not give this virus opportunities to deliver more surprises."

    Ebola moving faster than control efforts, WHO warns - CBS News

    [notice this was Aug. 1st]
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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Why do you think that is?

    "Constant mutation and adaptation are the survival mechanisms of viruses and other microbes," she said. "We must not give this virus opportunities to deliver more surprises."

    Ebola moving faster than control efforts, WHO warns - CBS News

    [notice this was Aug. 1st]
    Mutations occur all the time in all genes...most are not ever even expressed. Those that are are almost always harmful to the organism. The ones that are beneficial dont necessarily have anything to do with with their virulence. Mutations are random and it would have to relevant to the danger to humans to matter.

    The experts are saying the likelihood of a 'dangerous' mutation is low right now. That likelihood rises with the number of infected individuals.

    So 'constant' does not mean significant. Please dont use science improperly....doctors are speaking to the media in generalities.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    That was a related but different virus that only certain species of monkeys get. It was not transmitted directly to any people except one who cut himself and had blood to blood contact. He didnt get it.

    It was not and did not become airborne.

    Chill Chicken Little
    The Ebola virus replicates itself differently in every victim, increasing the chance of mutation in each case. The reserachers at Resten were very lucky this strain didn't affect humans [even though they tested positive]

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    BTW: which are you, a doctor or a scientist?
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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Since everything happening lately seems to be based on strictly political reasons, it would not surprise anyone. Ebola has been a problem in parts of Africa for quite some time now - odd that it would choose to jump from half way around the world and make an appearance here at this time in Texas of all places! Possible, but still strangely coincidental ....
    Especially since the reporter flat out ask the doctor from the CDC if the man was a citizen of this country and he dodged it. Might make someone be suspicious of his family member's citizenship.
    How many people escaped to come here?

    Here's info on the Resten VA> incident.

    Internet Scientific Publications
    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Mutations occur all the time in all genes...most are not ever even expressed. Those that are are almost always harmful to the organism. The ones that are beneficial dont necessarily have anything to do with with their virulence. Mutations are random and it would have to relevant to the danger to humans to matter.

    The experts are saying the likelihood of a 'dangerous' mutation is low right now. That likelihood rises with the number of infected individuals.

    So 'constant' does not mean significant. Please dont use science improperly....doctors are speaking to the media in generalities.
    I listened to the CDC doctor...he was overly-confidant, evasive at times and contradicted himself on occasion. Sorry but, having seen how the government deals with internal problems of this country, I don't trust the CDC.
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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I listened to the CDC doctor...he was overly-confidant, evasive at times and contradicted himself on occasion. Sorry but, having seen how the government deals with internal problems of this country, I don't trust the CDC.
    Your interpretation means little. There is scientific consensus on this at this time....possible but not likely. I also watched the hearings. I saw at least 3 doctors reiterate this.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    The Ebola virus replicates itself differently in every victim, increasing the chance of mutation in each case. The reserachers at Resten were very lucky this strain didn't affect humans [even though they tested positive]

    Internet Scientific Publications

    BTW: which are you, a doctor or a scientist?
    Ebola doesnt replicate any differently than other filo viruses. And please post some source that says that.

    And I study epidemiology...as a layperson with a backgound in microbiology.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Especially since the reporter flat out ask the doctor from the CDC if the man was a citizen of this country and he dodged it. Might make someone be suspicious of his family member's citizenship.
    How many people escaped to come here?

    Here's info on the Resten VA> incident.

    Internet Scientific Publications
    You were already told that this was not Ebola and never developed disease in any human, despite the Reston virus antibodies being found in their blood titers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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