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Thread: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    I started this thread several months ago regarding the spread while it was still in Africa.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/off-to...t-borders.html

    Now it's here.
    And we're getting into the frozen months, when sickness is widely prevalent. Swell!

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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Assuming the virus does not change its route of transmission, any outbreak will be minimal in western countries.

    This virus needs to be spread by blood and fluid contact, similar to HIV. But people are not reserviors of this virus like HIV, and if you make it thru, you are immune, much like a flu. Western medicine, with use of gloves, gowns and santitation and disposable sharps make this a non issue.

    Unless, of course, a mutation allows it to spread via air or contact via hand surfaces. Then we're talking a big mess.
    According to what I just read via the WHO and the CDC, it can be spread by touch. It's why they are telling everyone to stay clean, wear gloves around infected, avoid infected, don't touch anything, avoid healthcare facilities where there are infected, WASH YOUR HANDS, use alcohol-based hand sanitizers.

    By touch? That's terrifying. Not as scary as airborne, but still scary.
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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    We don't even quarantine infectious TB anymore. I still believe we could have stopped, or at least significantly reduced the AIDS epidemic here if we had quarantined in the very beginning when we first became aware. And good luck with getting people to follow the government's plans in this sort of situation.
    Sorry but I find these to be extremely poor analogies.

    In most countries people with active, open TB are hospitalised and looked after in respiratory isolation until they've had several days of anti-TB therapy and are no longer infectious. That's a reasonable measure and the vast majority of hospitalised TB patients don't pass on their infection to others. No panic. In many places it's mandatory for health care workers to have had the BCG vaccine (against TB). TB cannot be compared to Ebola.

    And neither can AIDS. AIDS is a pandemic, not an epidemic. Quarantine would have been and still is totally unnecessary as to limit its spread you limit at risk behaviours, that's all. Without HIV testing the whole world you wouldn't know who to quarantine anyway. What was missing in the early days was education and adequate access to counselling, testing, condoms, needle exchange etc. As somebody else has pointed out, society didn't really care if it was only gays and drug addicts dropping dead. And a few Haitians? Well they're black, and poor, and not going to enrich the pharmaceutical industry particularly, and there perhaps we have the reason why we've to date not seen massive funds put into researching diseases like Ebola, Malaria etc.

    Ebola is not new. But we've waited until we we perceive a potential threat to ourselves to get upset about it. Funny that.
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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    I started this thread several months ago regarding the spread while it was still in Africa.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/off-to...t-borders.html

    Now it's here.
    As long as it doesn't become more highly contagious than it currently is and mutate into an airborne version, it'll probably not be rampant. They've already got a few antiviruses being experimented on, and a pretty good treatment plan. Hep-C and HIV actually scare me as much, though they're not as quick to kill.
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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    Ebola is not new. But we've waited until we we perceive a potential threat to ourselves to get upset about it. Funny that.
    I saw this a couple of weeks ago. It's supposed to be a funny meme, but it's really not that funny when you think about how many people have died from Ebola.

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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    As long as it doesn't become more highly contagious than it currently is and mutate into an airborne version, it'll probably not be rampant. They've already got a few antiviruses being experimented on, and a pretty good treatment plan. Hep-C and HIV actually scare me as much, though they're not as quick to kill.
    yeah true, but you can't get AIDS from touching a doorknob, or taking care of an infected person. This seems to be much more easily transmissible, and equally, if not more, deadly.
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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Its here, of course the government will never admit it. And they would wait till about a million dead before doing anything.

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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    And we're getting into the frozen months, when sickness is widely prevalent. Swell!
    I swear, the level of abject ignorance on how this disease is transmitted (and easily controlled in Western countries) is amazing.

    I'm waiting for someone to suggest the way to prevent it is to throw Jews down the well.
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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    yeah true, but you can't get AIDS from touching a doorknob, or taking care of an infected person. This seems to be much more easily transmissible, and equally, if not more, deadly.
    I saw a few people today really wiping their hands hard at the grocery store with the provided disinfecting towelettes. True, Ebola is far easier to contract thru fluids in skin breaks than those other viruses. We all have minor cracks in our hands that we can't see that transmit and pickup diseases.

    My fear is probably what you and others are suspecting, how fast can this whole thing change into a real bad scenario?
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    Re: What happens if the ebola outbreak from West Africa spreads in the West?

    Not 'if', 'when'.

    The first case appeared in Dallas.

    There will - imo - undoubtedly be more.

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