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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    You've missed the point entirely, and I've no interest in restating myself.
    I don't see how. You were saying that in your area there is only one company that sells compliant appliances and whatnot. That seems awfully hard to believe to me, but even if that were so, all you'd need to do to address that would be to go to a city. Or use the Internet like everybody else does. Right? Obviously, there are thousands of retailers selling that stuff to choose from, no?

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    no you cant....but you dont have to buy new either....there are auctions all the time of companies that file BK, and their equipment comes up all the time

    my wife owns a deli/market/catering business in DC

    she bought a two year old oven in one a few weeks back....new 80k....she paid 33k

    you have to be smart.....buying new is the fastest way to go broke

    buildout on a new restaurant using refurbished/used equipment will still cost you a cool million.....

    and we own sysco stock....have for years.....great dividends, and one of the companies who you can count on to just keep chugging on
    Is there, then, a rational reason for requiring a 33 K used, or 80K new, oven to be purchased, instead of the sort of oven we all have in our kitchens, or is it simply a way to ensure Sysco's profitability?
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    The health inspector, when they eventually show up, will fine you, and cite you. Kinda like driving without a headlight. You can do it, but you'll eventually get caught. Ask me how I know?
    Then, the regulations being discussed are actually necessary for public safety? If that's so, why should there be a problem with them?
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Is there, then, a rational reason for requiring a 33 K used, or 80K new, oven to be purchased, instead of the sort of oven we all have in our kitchens, or is it simply a way to ensure Sysco's profitability?

    the oven wasnt a sysco oven....i mentioned that because someone mentioned the company

    when my wife bought the company with her brother 25 years ago, i didnt know anything about the food industry

    i have learned a lot since then.....sysco being one of major investments

    the oven was am industrial oven very similar to these

    Best Ovens | Commercial Bread Baking Ovens

    depending on your operation, sometimes a simple double decker convection oven is plenty

    with her operation, she needed much more
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    the oven wasnt a sysco oven....i mentioned that because someone mentioned the company

    when my wife bought the company with her brother 25 years ago, i didnt know anything about the food industry

    i have learned a lot since then.....sysco being one of major investments

    the oven was am industrial oven very similar to these

    Best Ovens | Commercial Bread Baking Ovens

    depending on your operation, sometimes a simple double decker convection oven is plenty

    with her operation, she needed much more
    So, getting back to KevinKohler's post about excessive regulation, can we conclude that much of the cost attributed to regulation is actually the cost of commercial equipment that is needed for a business as opposed to less costly equipment that we have in our kitchens?
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So, getting back to KevinKohler's post about excessive regulation, can we conclude that much of the cost attributed to regulation is actually the cost of commercial equipment that is needed for a business as opposed to less costly equipment that we have in our kitchens?

    the equipment is extremely expensive

    but the regulations are also very costly

    everything from how your exhaust has to be done, to the type of refrigeration you use, and what you are allowed to put into it

    its a costly combination....the regulations require x, which you need equipment y to overcome

    the restaurant business, or food business as a whole is probably one the hardest to get going, and one of the easiest to go broke in
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    the equipment is extremely expensive

    but the regulations are also very costly

    everything from how your exhaust has to be done, to the type of refrigeration you use, and what you are allowed to put into it

    its a costly combination....the regulations require x, which you need equipment y to overcome

    the restaurant business, or food business as a whole is probably one the hardest to get going, and one of the easiest to go broke in
    I get that. Now, since you're in the business, perhaps you know whether the regulations are necessary for public safety, or whether they are there for the benefit of some of the vendors.

    Or, perhaps it is both.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    for the benefit of some vendors?

    i dont think so.....

    everything required is for customer or employer safety....

    food production can be very hazardous as many would guess

    do i think they go overboard on some...yes

    but i am the less government = better world type of guy

    i want to know that when i eat out, the food we consume is not only tasty, but also safe to consume

    so some regulation and oversight is needed...the question then becomes how much is too much
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    for the benefit of some vendors?

    i dont think so.....

    everything required is for customer or employer safety....

    food production can be very hazardous as many would guess

    do i think they go overboard on some...yes

    but i am the less government = better world type of guy

    i want to know that when i eat out, the food we consume is not only tasty, but also safe to consume

    so some regulation and oversight is needed...the question then becomes how much is too much
    As a frequent customer of restaurants, I'm with you all the way.

    And having been in countries that don't have the same sorts of regulations we have, I'm doubly certain that public health needs to be protected.

    So, the original post by KevinKohler has little if any truth to it. Good to know.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    todays news

    Wells Fargo Worker Asks For $3B Raise - For Everyone

    Wells Fargo Worker Asks For $3B Raise - For Everyone

    he is a customer service rep

    makes over $ 15 an hour.....

    so 30k approx for annual....and he wants a 10k raise (25%) because the company is profitable

    did he do anything special for the raise?

    did he learn any new skills? improve some system in the bank?

    wanting a raise is fine.....now how about EARNING it.....

    just doing your job doesnt get you a 25% raise.....
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