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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Yes. Make us competitive with the wonderful countries like Chine and Bangladesh, AKA, republicrat wonderlands.
    Well, you can do a Bill Gates instead. That is an other way to create jobs and make money.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by tuhaybey View Post
    Anyways man, if you sincerely want to understand, I think I've laid it out in enough detail. At this point, this seems more to me like you just aren't really interested in understanding so much as trying to change the topic.
    Again you deflect away from defending your own comments. You post up trash and you say I'm trying to change the topic. The topic is what you posted and it is that which I responded too. Further I am trying to understand, yet you can't defend or explain your own comments. You want to post up BS then you can expect to be challenged on it, otherwise don't post up BS.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganesh View Post
    The question is not people making what they can, but under what circumstances this is best for society at large.
    So you want to cap what people make in their business and you call that is best for society at large.

    Some people "can" make obscene amounts of money, given their leverage.
    Yes they can, a company makes a profit and they can use that profit to leverage that profit to expand, in turn their business grows and more people are employed.

    Vladimir Putin, for example, has no doubt made large amounts of money, because he can, in his capitalist system, but that doesn't mean that is best for Russian society.
    Putin is not in business, he is in politics, now if your suggesting he can make large amounts of money because he can. If Putin is making large amounts of money is he doing it legally or illegally?

    The Walton family has made massive amounts of money, but any reasonable sociological or economic analysis of their efforts is going to produce, at best, pretty mixed reviews of what this has done to American society.
    And Microsoft and the like have made much more than the Walton family and how would you measure their efforts in producing for society?

    People can make what they want, but it must come under the scrutiny of the people,
    Every dime a company makes comes under the scrutiny of the people. We have taxation, and a bazillion regulations that a company has to follow in accordance with the scrutiny of the people.

    The right wing in American politics wants to insist (urged on by the desires of the one percent) on a child-like view of the world, in which all good boys deserve favours, and only the best win out in the end, for purely their own ends, not for yours.
    What this is all about is you can't stand to see a company make money, you can't stand to see an owner go buy a 2 million dollar yacht. Let alone a person like Steven Spielberg's yacht cost 200 million.

    Here take a look, this will really piss you off. And he's a liberal

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Regulations are involved in EVERYTHING. They determine WHO you buy WHAT supplies from, and thus, for how much. If, say, Hobart is the only pot and pan machine you are ALLOWED to use, and Sysco is the ONLY company in your area you are ABLE to purchase such a thing from? That's called a monopoly, and a government enforced one, no less. There is absolutely NO reason why a pot washer/steamer should cost 25K, or MORE. Same with automotive, same with healthcare, same with just about everything. It's EVERYWHERE. The gauze we complain about our hospitals charging 20 bucks for? Well, they charge that, because there is only ONE supplier they are likely ALLOWED to purchase it from. And they are gonna charge whatever the hell the feel they can get away with. And since the only check and balance on THAT really is insurance, guess what? They can get away with QUITE a lot.
    I read a post like that one and wonder just how much truth there is to it. If it's even partly so, then it would explain why it costs so much to do business.

    The only logical explanation for rules like that is that the vendor who has a monopoly has it because of having purchased enough political influence to get his way, which, unfortunately, is how all too many decisions are made.

    But, if I have a restaurant, I can't go out and buy the same sort of microwave I have in my kitchen at home? Really?
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I read a post like that one and wonder just how much truth there is to it. If it's even partly so, then it would explain why it costs so much to do business.

    The only logical explanation for rules like that is that the vendor who has a monopoly has it because of having purchased enough political influence to get his way, which, unfortunately, is how all too many decisions are made.

    But, if I have a restaurant, I can't go out and buy the same sort of microwave I have in my kitchen at home? Really?

    no you cant....but you dont have to buy new either....there are auctions all the time of companies that file BK, and their equipment comes up all the time

    my wife owns a deli/market/catering business in DC

    she bought a two year old oven in one a few weeks back....new 80k....she paid 33k

    you have to be smart.....buying new is the fastest way to go broke

    buildout on a new restaurant using refurbished/used equipment will still cost you a cool million.....

    and we own sysco stock....have for years.....great dividends, and one of the companies who you can count on to just keep chugging on
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by tuhaybey View Post
    If you are having trouble finding enough appliances approved for use in restaurants in your area, why not take a trip into the city to pick one up? I don't think you can blame the government if your county doesn't have a ton of stores that sell equipment for restaurants.
    You've missed the point entirely, and I've no interest in restating myself.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    But, if I have a restaurant, I can't go out and buy the same sort of microwave I have in my kitchen at home? Really?
    It's unsafe, they are not built to withstand the load being placed on them in a business setting. Household microwaves are not made to be running constantly.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I read a post like that one and wonder just how much truth there is to it. If it's even partly so, then it would explain why it costs so much to do business.

    The only logical explanation for rules like that is that the vendor who has a monopoly has it because of having purchased enough political influence to get his way, which, unfortunately, is how all too many decisions are made.

    But, if I have a restaurant, I can't go out and buy the same sort of microwave I have in my kitchen at home? Really?
    The health inspector, when they eventually show up, will fine you, and cite you. Kinda like driving without a headlight. You can do it, but you'll eventually get caught. Ask me how I know?
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It's unsafe, they are not built to withstand the load being placed on them in a business setting. Household microwaves are not made to be running constantly.
    That's a matter of opinion. Had a 20 dollar walmart deal in a little mom and pop I worked at for years, no issues, till a health inspector noticed it.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I read a post like that one and wonder just how much truth there is to it. If it's even partly so, then it would explain why it costs so much to do business.

    The only logical explanation for rules like that is that the vendor who has a monopoly has it because of having purchased enough political influence to get his way, which, unfortunately, is how all too many decisions are made.

    But, if I have a restaurant, I can't go out and buy the same sort of microwave I have in my kitchen at home? Really?
    From what I understand, no. Not unless you want to get slapped with fines and/or shut down. Regulations are one of the major forms of protectionism still around.

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