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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Apparently you don't know how tiresome Europeans can be while lecturing Americans. Sweden is turning into a hellhole while she educates Americans on Macro Economics. It is rich with irony, as is your response..
    Being a dual Swedish/American citizen, I'm pretty sure I know more about Sweden and Europeans than you do. Sweden is far from being a hellhole. It's actually a nicer place to live than the United States...... crime is lower, healthcare is better, overall quality of life is higher.

    Not that any of that matters. What I was calling you out for is your use of the ad hominem in place of actually arguing against the merits of redistribution on, you know, logical or factual grounds.

    Just set up an "us vs them" scenario where those dirty "others," (the Swedes) are different from us and therefore can't possibly be right. Way to rally the troops.

    Children argue in such ways.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Being a dual Swedish/American citizen, I'm pretty sure I know more about Sweden and Europeans than you do. Sweden is far from being a hellhole. It's actually a nicer place to live than the United States...... crime is lower, healthcare is better, overall quality of life is higher.
    Where in the United States? Where in Sweden? There are scores of places to live in both countries. My background is Swedish and I visited there not long ago and still have friends living in Malmo and Stockholm..

    Swedish Welfare State Collapses as Immigrants Wage War

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85Vwl2LyX0M


    Not that any of that matters. What I was calling you out for is your use of the ad hominem in place of actually arguing against the merits of redistribution on, you know, logical or factual grounds.

    Just set up an "us vs them" scenario where those dirty "others," (the Swedes) are different from us and therefore can't possibly be right. Way to rally the troops.
    The discussion evolved from a Swede lecturing Americans, so you contribute to the ongoing irony, and this is a tiresome habit the majority of western Europeans fall into. In fact I've never met a more tiresome bunch.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Nothing should be done, that isn't already being done. Income equality is a reality, because people aren't all equal in intelligence, drive, ingenuity, and just plain old luck. I strongly support reward for efforts, education, and industriousness, and I strongly dislike paying people for doing nothing.
    I agree. The skills necessary to keep up with my profession have increased, thus, causing the amount of time, effort, expenses, and training required to do it have also increased. It takes far more knowledge and skill to do what I do today than it did 50 years ago. For those offering minimum skill levels, it takes the same to do today what it took 50 years ago. That's why my pay level has increased at a greater proportion than theirs. Now, they simply want to be paid for existence not what they offer.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Being a dual Swedish/American citizen, I'm pretty sure I know more about Sweden and Europeans than you do. Sweden is far from being a hellhole. It's actually a nicer place to live than the United States...... crime is lower, healthcare is better, overall quality of life is higher.

    Not that any of that matters. What I was calling you out for is your use of the ad hominem in place of actually arguing against the merits of redistribution on, you know, logical or factual grounds.

    Just set up an "us vs them" scenario where those dirty "others," (the Swedes) are different from us and therefore can't possibly be right. Way to rally the troops.

    Children argue in such ways.
    Much of the argument in favor of increasing the minimum wage centers around other countries having much higher minimium wage rates. In fact, Sweden is often used as one of them by supporters of making minimum wage $15/hour. If you want to look at a childish argument, look at that one. Someone that argues the U.S. should do such a thing because others do it argue from the intellectual level of a 5 year old. It's like little Johnny saying he should get to do something simply because little Jimmy does.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Islamophobic rhetoric substituted for economic data.

    How sad.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative65 View Post
    Much of the argument in favor of increasing the minimum wage centers around other countries having much higher minimium wage rates. In fact, Sweden is often used as one of them by supporters of making minimum wage $15/hour. If you want to look at a childish argument, look at that one. Someone that argues the U.S. should do such a thing because others do it argue from the intellectual level of a 5 year old. It's like little Johnny saying he should get to do something simply because little Jimmy does.
    The argument is that MW has declined in real terms since 1978 and coincides with that quintile's overall wage declines from the same time frame.




    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative65 View Post
    I agree. The skills necessary to keep up with my profession have increased, thus, causing the amount of time, effort, expenses, and training required to do it have also increased. It takes far more knowledge and skill to do what I do today than it did 50 years ago. For those offering minimum skill levels, it takes the same to do today what it took 50 years ago. That's why my pay level has increased at a greater proportion than theirs. Now, they simply want to be paid for existence not what they offer.
    The truth is too radical for some to accept.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Islamophobic rhetoric substituted for economic data.

    How sad.
    Where is the Islamophobia?

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Where is the Islamophobia?
    It is usual for those entrenched in the phobia to view it as normal.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative65 View Post
    I agree. The skills necessary to keep up with my profession have increased, thus, causing the amount of time, effort, expenses, and training required to do it have also increased. It takes far more knowledge and skill to do what I do today than it did 50 years ago. For those offering minimum skill levels, it takes the same to do today what it took 50 years ago. That's why my pay level has increased at a greater proportion than theirs. Now, they simply want to be paid for existence not what they offer.
    Of course it has....

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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