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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    Raising taxes on capital won't do anything to help the middle class. In fact, to the extent it dampens investment the middle class, many who are dependent on pensions or 401ks, will suffer from a lowered rate of return. Plus, if you think jobs are going overseas now, just raise taxes on capital and watch the run for the border.
    How is that going to negatively impact retirement accounts? Capital gains outside of retirement accounts are significantly lower and that is where the problem lies. Also, do you have proof production will go overseas due to higher long term capital rates?

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Ah, so now its raise taxes AND redistribute. Its becoming clearer now, isn't it , comrade? Sneaky.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Un, no, I stated :

    Raising taxes on CAPITAL GAINS, in lieu of business not raising wages, will help the middle class, ie Piketty.

    IF you understood the reference to Piketty (and you have not shown any understanding since you keep referring to him as a communist) you would understand that since the demise of middle class influence (decline of Unions, increase in globalization) and the gains going to the top 1% since roughly 1980, the counter to this in lieu of the 1% increasing wages, is to capture some of this wealth and distribute it to lower and middle wage earners to compensate their lowered incomes.

    It is not much different from the concept of Friedman for a minimum guaranteed income.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    Skills pay the bills

    Improving themselves...gaining knowledge and experience

    I deal in micro not macro....and every individual needs to improve themselves

    The more skills you have, the more valuable you become....it really is that simple
    Except that most worker are overqualified for their position, productivity has continuously increased, but compensation has not.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You have yet to define with any real clarity what exactly fair means. All you did was use another subjective phrase and pretend that doing such is clearly defining the word. Like I said, what does "reasonably comfortably" mean and include? Who is to say someone is wrong if they don't find healthcare to be included under what is "reasonable comfortable"? Who is to say what you should earn? Who is to say really anything with that standard? It means nothing.
    Ummmmmm yea if your sick and can't get help you will not be reasonably comfortable.

    And no that's straight out the dictionary. Fair has to do with standards.

    Why do cons hate other ppl so much? Why u guys so greedy you do not wanna give anything back to the society that without which you never would have attained so much?

    You guys even wanna get rid of programs that allot of you used at one point or another...

    Smh

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    Ah, so now its raise taxes AND redistribute. Its becoming clearer now, isn't it , comrade? Sneaky.
    FFS....DUDE....right from the start of our exchanges I was discussing the imposition of taxes in lieu of wage increases.

    I'm not going to respond to you if you are not going to read what you are responding to.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    Horrors like paying ppl fairly for their labor? Or single payer so insurance company's aren't artificially jacking up prices?

    Paying people fairly, huh?

    What does that mean to you?

    As an adult, are you able to make decisions for yourself as to whether or not a wage is "good enough" for a job?

    You don't think other adults can make the same determination?

    A job is worth what an employer is WILLING to pay, and an employee is WILLING to accept

    No more...and no less.....it is a contract between those two forces and either party has the ability to say no

    Nothing else matters.....nothing
    “Most of the shadows of this life are caused by standing in one's own sunshine.”

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    Paying people fairly, huh?

    What does that mean to you?

    As an adult, are you able to make decisions for yourself as to whether or not a wage is "good enough" for a job?

    You don't think other adults can make the same determination?

    A job is worth what an employer is WILLING to pay, and an employee is WILLING to accept

    No more...and no less.....it is a contract between those two forces and either party has the ability to say no

    Nothing else matters.....nothing
    Untrue in a stagnant job market you have much less of a choice...

    And what about the mentally handicapped and dumb ppl? Should they starve in the street? That's what it seems like your saying...

    And by dumb I mean low IQ... Incapable of achieving higher education or skills...

    You cons are anti ppl

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    Paying people fairly, huh?

    What does that mean to you?

    As an adult, are you able to make decisions for yourself as to whether or not a wage is "good enough" for a job?

    You don't think other adults can make the same determination?

    A job is worth what an employer is WILLING to pay, and an employee is WILLING to accept

    No more...and no less.....it is a contract between those two forces and either party has the ability to say no

    Nothing else matters.....nothing
    You are talking in the abstract, assuming perfect knowledge of all parties in a perfect market. The employee has no knowledge of what a business could pay, the market currently is distorted by high levels of un/underemployment, workers are more than often overqualified....

    Beyond this, worker influence has declined greatly since 1980 as reflected in the lack of wage gains.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You are talking in the abstract, assuming perfect knowledge of all parties in a perfect market. The employee has no knowledge of what a business could pay, the market currently is distorted by high levels of un/underemployment, workers are more than often overqualified....

    Beyond this, worker influence has declined greatly since 1980 as reflected in the lack of wage gains.
    I would say most workers never had enough influence....

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    What about uneducated ppl? What about dumb ppl? Why about the mentally challenged??

    Oh n ain't nothing worse than a micro manager... Very poor method.... You should lead by example...
    There ought to be a rule on the webzine that all liberals already understand the following

    The mentally and physically handicapped, who cannot help themselves will always be a ward of the state

    And because of that, will always be cared for by the state

    Everyone else...and I mean everyone else...can improve themselves, and learn more

    You need an eight iq to be a plumbers apprentice and make 16 bucks an hour

    Trades can be learned by even those with less than average intelligences
    “Most of the shadows of this life are caused by standing in one's own sunshine.”

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