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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeside View Post
    Care to share with us your views on what needs to be done? I am interested.
    Stuff you'll generally disagree with.

    Tying executive compensation to worker pay is one area which goes to ensure all are befitting more equally from a strongly preforming company.

    Protecting international workers and environments to level the playing field that selects against American workers and manufacturing.

    Single payer healthcare so that employees can negotiate income separately from benefits.

    A more robust retirement program to supplement the historic drop in defined pension programs for American workers.

    An overtime structure that doesn't discriminate against workers combining multiple part time jobs to achieve full time employment.

    A reversal of "right to work" laws, which primarily serve business interests rather than worker interests.

    Raising minimum wage.

    Increased public funding for higher education. Companies expecting highly trained employees should contribute to the cost of educating them, rather than forcing a crippling debt load onto those least capable of immediately repaying it.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    more pillow headed nonsense. then other countries retaliate and the cost of goods for US citizens goes way up
    You can be dismissive, but these aren't unsolvable issues, even if there will be compromise in order to actually solve them.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, but her father and grandfather certainly were.
    But you said all wealthy people were more intelligent and so on.. her grandfather is dead, and her father got his money from his father. It is pretty easy to "make money" once you have money after all.

    No income inequality has everything to do with education and access to said education and the ability of society to take of people in need (yes healthcare costs among other things). The countries with least income inequality all have one thing in common... free or very low cost education that means where you were born and in what income class has very little to do with your future. In places like Denmark, Sweden and so on, being born in a poor ghetto, on a farm or to the richest 1% families has very little impact on what you do with your life. If you have the intelligence and the grades, then you can become anything you want and the cost aspect has been removed. That means the bricklayers son, who traditionally would get remain in the same type of job as his father and his fathers father, has the ability to climb the economic and social ladder. It works, my family and most Danes are clear examples of this.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The majority problem is with government oversight and corporate welfare. The rules would need to be changed to hold everyone to the same standards, and we'd have to stop allowing the government to bail out losers of economic games, the market would have to take care of it.

    FDA? Probably would still exist on some level. OSHA? Of course. It's not to say that government intervention is always bad or unwarranted. Sometimes the market will not have innate limitations that need to be enforced by an outside source. But when it entangles so completely and then starts to select winners itself, we move away from the Free Market system.
    You understand why I have to ask, right? The meaning of "free market" is radically different, depending on who is using the term. Especially when it's libertarians. For the most part, I agree with you. Yeah, consumer protection by non profit third party. Not a bad idea. Yeah, worker protection, by the same. Again, super good.

    Financial pitfall protection? Hmmm....maybe rethink that, unless, of course, large companies are willing to socialize their profits, in addition to their risks...?

    I would go on and say that the FDIC might be a good place to hack and slash. Why should banks have such protections? Make no mistake, FDIC insured is there for the BANK'S protection, not the customer. The FDIC exists to ensure the bank's money (customers) against the bank making really really bad decisions. Sounds a lot like a bail out, doesn't it?
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Fred Foldvary has an excellent article on the causes and possible solutions to poverty
    Foldvary on Fixing Capitalism

    While some wealth inequality is perfectly natural, the privatization of our commons without proper restitution is a major contributor to the inequality we are seeing.



    Continuing growth of inequality, unrest, more crime, possible revolution.



    Replace our current tax system with LVT and create a citizens dividend.
    The problem there is so many people will view that as full blown socialism, which is akin to the boogey man.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    workers who want to be middle class in terms of US standards need to be able to compete better than the middle classes in India, China, Mexico etc
    Which is another way of saying, they need to be willing to work for around the same pay.


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    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Keep dreaming dude. lets stick to reality and the reality is pillow headed US utopians aren't going to tell China and India how to treat their low skilled workers
    They will if they want to sell their **** here.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    more pillow headed nonsense. then other countries retaliate and the cost of goods for US citizens goes way up
    And voila, all the sudden made in US **** starts looking better and better to the walmart shoppers here.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    You understand why I have to ask, right? The meaning of "free market" is radically different, depending on who is using the term. Especially when it's libertarians. For the most part, I agree with you. Yeah, consumer protection by non profit third party. Not a bad idea. Yeah, worker protection, by the same. Again, super good.

    Financial pitfall protection? Hmmm....maybe rethink that, unless, of course, large companies are willing to socialize their profits, in addition to their risks...?

    I would go on and say that the FDIC might be a good place to hack and slash. Why should banks have such protections? Make no mistake, FDIC insured is there for the BANK'S protection, not the customer. The FDIC exists to ensure the bank's money (customers) against the bank making really really bad decisions. Sounds a lot like a bail out, doesn't it?
    The FDIC exists because we saw what happened when everyone tried to withdraw their money from the banks at once at the start of the Great Depression. It's there so people feel that their money is safe, and don't stage a run on the banks.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The FDIC exists because we saw what happened when everyone tried to withdraw their money from the banks at once at the start of the Great Depression. It's there so people feel that their money is safe, and don't stage a run on the banks.
    Right. Because, otherwise, we wouldn't use banks, and that would be catastrophic for a lot of rich people. And those runs on banks prior to the great depression were the direct result of miss handling of funds BY those banks. It's a pre bailout, bailout, for banks.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you failed to prove your point.
    No you failed to prove yours. Again I was alive is not any sort of proof. I proved that millions were starving under dde and the problem has only gotten worse since. Your confused about what "starving" is...

    try being open minded for once.

    What's your religion?
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