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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    No but its certainly only for the middle upper middle class, and rich. depending on what city you live in (ie philly, where I am from) it is totally unaffordable to the middle class. Its cheaper to move to the burbs, and many do.

    Furthermore the numbers are skewed, because (again at least here in philly) most of the "private schools" are catholic schools, which only offer a slightly better education and recently have done away with standardized testing. It is also skewed because about half of the best (and most expensive) privates are in the burbs, and do not count to the numbers, whereas most of he catholic ones are in the city.

    Their are results. Without he war on poverty millions would starve and go uneducated, as it is now they are only slightly better, and are generally uneducated and hungry still. Even if they do obtain high school diploma's... It also lowered the absolute poverty (not o be confused with poverty rate) by 1/3rd (5%) and could have done allot more had it been run properly.

    Furthermore the war on poverty was immediately gutted after its inception by Nixon, and other presidents, the office for economic opportunity only lasted eleven years. It was then turned into he community service administration, and that only lasted from 75 till 81. With directors like Donald rumsfeld i don't know how you could expect anything different. I'm quite sure loads of money went into the pockets of private company's and administrative fees that did nothing for the people.

    It cost 300 bill a year on average. it should have been allot more and could have done allot more. had it gone the way LBJ envisioned. This compared to military spending or corporate subsidies is a pittance.

    For example in 7 years its estimated we spent 1.1 trillion in Iraq. This number is incomplete due to hidden costs but say it was 1.1 trillion. That would mean we could have paid for half of the "war on Poverty's" costs with Iraq alone. Or expanded and reformed it to do real good.

    I'll ask you again are you religious?
    so millions were starving under DDE?



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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so millions were starving under DDE?
    Yup!
    The actual number of people below the absolute poverty line in 1961 (when he left office) was 18,828,933 keep in mind absolute poverty is a condition characterized by severe deprivation of basic human needs, including food, safe drinking water, sanitation facilities, health, shelter, education and information.

    It would have been averted by passing economic bill of rights instead of the GI bill...

    Its usually ten percent of the pop. In 66 it was 10.5%... Doesn't change much...

    You guys should really look into stuff before you babble...

    Are you religious?

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    Yup!
    The actual number of people below the absolute poverty line in 1961 (when he left office) was 18,828,933 keep in mind absolute poverty is a condition characterized by severe deprivation of basic human needs, including food, safe drinking water, sanitation facilities, health, shelter, education and information.

    It would have been averted by the economic bill of rights...

    Its usually ten percent of the pop. In 66 it was 10.5%... Doesn't change much...

    You guys should really look into stuff before you babble...

    Are you religious?
    that isn't proof that millions were starving. sounds like bs to me

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that isn't proof that millions were starving. sounds like bs to me

    no
    Any proof or just more babble?

    I got it by simply taking 10% of the pop in 1961... Do some research I can wait...

    Ahhhhh denial.... Such a common trait to neocons

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    Any proof or just more babble?

    I got it by simply taking 10% of the pop in 1961... Do some research I can wait...

    Ahhhhh denial.... Such a common trait to neocons

    Are you religious?
    I was alive back then. millions of people were not starving to death




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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I was alive back then. millions of people were not starving to death

    Well according to the numbers you would be wrong. And you can be starving without dieing. Starving means to suffer greatly from hunger as well as to be dieing from hunger. many did back then, and still more do today. I know plenty of people I am sure are starving now. Not to death, but they suffer greatly from hunger everyday.

    IMO (given your stated views) you were not and do not pay attention to such things, that in fact you probably try to turn a blind eye, as many do.

    I was alive is not proof.

    What's your religion? Seriously what is it? I am agnostic.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm not sure how to google it and find the answer. I just remember that we had to have a separate donation for the political action committee, and that those donations were voluntary and were above the regular union dues.
    Based on my searches and readings, it appears dues can be used by unions for political purposes. As I wrote in another post, Prop 32 in 2012 sought to curtain this type of spending and was defeated.

    This NY Times article outlines the issue.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/02/us...anted=all&_r=0

    If passed, it would also bar unions from using automatic payroll deductions to raise money for political campaigns, a major source of laborís political funding.

    I'm not sure what the distinction is regarding automatic payroll deductions. Aren't dues collected via automatic payroll deduction?

    Going with the assumption they are, it would appear all dues collected can be used in any manner the unions seem fit, including political activity, otherwise Prop 32 would not have been introduced.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    Well according to the numbers you would be wrong. And you can be starving without dieing. Starving means to suffer greatly from hunger as well as to be dieing from hunger. many did back then, and still more do today. I know plenty of people I am sure are starving now. Not to death, but they suffer greatly from hunger everyday.

    IMO (given your stated views) you were not and do not pay attention to such things, that in fact you probably try to turn a blind eye, as many do.

    I was alive is not proof.

    What's your religion? Seriously what is it? I am agnostic.
    you failed to prove your point.



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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Yes thats true, but it hurts the working man-you are under the unions thumb or bounce. Not very free, is it?
    You're under your bosses thumb everywhere you work.

    And the union gets you much more money for the work you do.

    There are issues with many unions. But right to work isn't about working. Its about killing unions.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Yeah, I don't truck with paying tribute to potential threats.
    So you're doomed to repeat history. OK.
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