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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Private schools are not just for the rich even today.
    Private schools have never been just for the rich, I went to private schools growing up and my parents were nowhere remotely close to being rich.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    And despite them all being hard working I suspect that there's a variety of wages earned.

    What response are you waiting for?

    If the union didn't work for the members, new officials with new policies would be elected. Why is it that anti-union people are so quick to argue "if you don't like the job you don't have to take it" when it comes to employers underpaying their staff, but suddenly become "pro labor" where everyone is entitled to work at a shop if it means infringing on unions.

    I'm not proposing violence, merely noting the historical remedies for imbalance involve rebalancing.
    Try scrolling back and putting a little effort forth.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what part of the constitution actually gives the federal government that power?

    the rich who live in the city limits pay for the schools of the poor.
    And the poor do too, but the school for the poor is crap... The rich can pay for a way out and thus try to gut spending on public schools.

    The constitution is one of the most hypocritical and self serving documents ever written. I would be all for throwing it away and coming up with something new.

    Its just like how during the civil war you could pay 300 bucks to get out of the draft. Or how sales tax effects the poor much greater than the rich. He rich pay it yes, but it does not effect them nearly as much, and they use their pull to get out of it as much as possible. The poor do not have these options.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It's much easier than actually looking up the data. Whatever, you're just a liberal, I expect as much from you.
    I gave you a link with the data. Yours would appear to simply be incorrect. Your a neocon and I would expect you to act extremely unempathetic as you have (neocons are some of the most hypocritical ppl out their!)

    And no I am a progressive thank you very much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Where do you get the idea the private sector shouldn't be allowed in? When in history has the private sector failed at providing education? If anything history tells us the dangers of public education and why a government monopoly in education is the worst of all monopolies.



    Private schools are not just for the rich even today.
    Yes they are. Well specifically they are not for the poor.

    If you were to eliminate them the rich and upper middle class would be forced to go to the same schools as the rest of us, this would in turn force them to use their sway and political power to fix the public schools.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    Your a neocon and I would expect you to act extremely unempathetic as you have (neocons are some of the most hypocritical ppm out their!)

    And no I am a progressive thank you very much.
    Yeah, whatever. How many times are you going to say farewell and keep responding again?
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    And the poor do too, but the school for the poor is crap... The rich can pay for a way out and thus try to gut spending on public schools.

    The constitution is one of the most hypocritical and self serving documents ever written. I would be all for throwing it away and coming up with something new.

    Its just like how during the civil war you could pay 300 bucks to get out of the draft. Or how sales tax effects the poor much greater than the rich. He rich pay it yes, but it does not effect them nearly as much, and they use their pull to get out of it as much as possible. The poor do not have these options.

    I gave you a link with the data. Yours would appear to simply be incorrect. Your a neocon and I would expect you to act extremely unempathetic as you have (neocons are some of the most hypocritical ppm out their!)

    And no I am a progressive thank you very much.



    Yes they are. Well specifically they are not for the poor.

    If you were to eliminate them the rich and upper middle class would be forced to go to the same schools as the rest of us, this would in turn force them to use their sway and political power to fix the public schools.
    remind me why I have a duty to pay for the problems of others that I have done nothing to cause?



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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    remind me why I have a duty to pay for the problems of others that I have done nothing to cause?
    Because its the right thing to do. Because otherwise their are HUGE negative impacts for society and because to some extent you and all others who profess this system to ever have been fair and equal have caused it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Yeah, whatever. How many times are you going to say farewell and keep responding again?
    I said it once dippy learn to count.

    Oh and its hilarious how you edit out the part that shows your lil book to be full of bull ploppy when up against the census...

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    Because its the right thing to do. Because otherwise their are HUGE negative impacts for society and because to some extent you and all others who profess this system to ever have been fair and equal have caused it.

    I said it once dippy learn to count.

    Oh and its hilarious how you edit out the part that shows your lil book to be full of bull ploppy when up against the census...
    your concept of the right thing to do is not mine. addicting people to handouts is almost as bad as addicting them to heroin and given how they vote, more harmful to me



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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    You're complaining about laziness, then you are complaining about hard workers not being smart and looking for opportunities in the workplace. I hope you realize that distinction. I don't think the majority of Americans are lazy. I think a lot of Americans are willing to work hard, and work long hours, but that has little to do with the income gap. Very hard working people live in poverty and financially struggle.
    The poorest are a minority. You know-the poor you are trying to use the "income inequality" angle on.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I know... fighting unions is about hurting the Democratic Party's financiers... but I am a pragmatic person and want to hear better reasons to oppose unions on a personal level. I understand how current politics works.
    It hurts competition and drives up prices-both of which hurt the consumer-EVERY consumer. That good enough?

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    While it has greatly diminished in city's, again in rural areas it has gotten worse. Furthermore to attribute all this to the free market is absurd. In India and China they have largely been growing from outside investment, and education. Not your beloved free market. Both governments stepped in with strong regulations and more funding for public education. This does much more than the free market ever could/would.
    Im sorry you are factually incorrect. There are many millions less poor, as in the video I posted. The trend is-and its entirely because of adopting free market principles. If "Govt stepping in with strong regulations and funding" was the answer inner city schools would flourish here in the US-they dont. And in many places in both China and India they still down have public education.

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