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Thread: Income Inequality

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    That's insanity. So you would allow the rich to pass on massive domes of money while everyone else picks up scraps?

    I say you can only pass on property, not money. Especially over 1-5mill or so.
    What makes you think the rich would live in a country like that?

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The point is you have to pay for it EITHER way, and they get to spend YOUR money for THEIR politics. Freedom of association, the enemy of unions.
    Its one reason for their demise.
    It is against the law of the State of California to use general membership dues to support political causes.

    I know. I used to be one of those terrible union members. I was even elected president of a local. I have a proud history of union membership, just like one of our most famous governors, Ronald Reagan.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    This is generally true, though there are agriculture unions here in CA that support the republicans, especially after all the crap going on in the central valley with the drought and delta smelt bull****.
    True, but they also rely on illegal alien labor, which is something the Republicans, in general, oppose, so...

    But yes, the Teacher's Union and the Public Employee Unions have the Democrats in their pocket.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm not sure that the Democrat Party's major donors are unions, but most of the union donations do go to Democrats.

    Do you see that as a problem?

    It seems to me that, if the Republicans want a bigger share of that pie, then they should be more pro labor.
    Lets make you sure...
    Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
    1 ActBlue $119,805,859 99% 0%
    2 American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $63,562,815 79% 1%
    3 National Education Assn $59,991,508 57% 4%
    4 AT&T Inc $57,977,064 41% 58%
    5 National Assn of Realtors $57,197,540 41% 43%
    6 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $47,074,114 90% 2%
    7 Goldman Sachs $47,054,435 52% 44%
    8 Carpenters & Joiners Union $43,628,423 68% 9%
    9 United Auto Workers $42,462,975 71% 0%
    10 Service Employees International Union $41,307,878 80% 2%
    11 Laborers Union $39,686,889 83% 7%
    12 American Federation of Teachers $38,179,895 89% 0%
    13 Teamsters Union $36,977,417 88% 5%
    14 Communications Workers of America $36,800,816 87% 0%
    15 JPMorgan Chase & Co $35,815,427 47% 51%
    16 United Food & Commercial Workers Union $35,451,971 85% 0%
    17 AFL-CIO $35,393,501 54% 2%
    18 United Parcel Service $33,444,162 35% 64%
    19 Citigroup Inc $33,438,657 48% 50%
    20 EMILY's List $32,778,804 98% 0%
    https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
    20 of the top 32 donors lean Democrat, while only 6 lean Republican. The rest are on the fence.

    Top Industries Lobbying on Labor, 2014
    Industry Total
    Public Sector Unions $6,736,037
    Transportation Unions $5,658,163
    Industrial Unions $4,013,607
    Misc Unions $3,643,065
    Building Trade Unions $2,395,000
    What I see as a problem is the sham these sides are in on. Unions support democrat politicians in exchange for their votes, its anti-capitalism, anti-competition, and a conflict of interest. And no-the solution isn't the republicans jumping on board.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Um... yeah, that's right. The Democrat president fundraises for Democrats, and the Democrats oppose the TEA Party that identifies itself with Republicans.

    And, of course, Republican presidents stay out of the fund raising business, right?

    Money is the mother's milk of politics. If you're going to oppose funding for one party, then oppose it for the other as well. Actually, money has corrupted our entire political system, not just one party.
    I dont oppose funding-I oppose HOW THE DEMOCRATS OBTAIN FUNDING, is that hard to understand? No matter, unions will continue to shrink in influence and as more people become aware of the sham it will resolve-knowing the dems they will just find another angle.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    True, but they also rely on illegal alien labor, which is something the Republicans, in general, oppose, so...

    But yes, the Teacher's Union and the Public Employee Unions have the Democrats in their pocket.
    Yeah we have a really odd type of republican party here. The democrat party knows where to get its bread buttered.

    And the silly premise of this thread indicates how many people buy into the insane idea that somehow income should be "equal". As if the results are evidence of a problem.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Lets make you sure...


    What I see as a problem is the sham these sides are in on. Unions support democrat politicians in exchange for their votes, its anti-capitalism, anti-competition, and a conflict of interest. And no-the solution isn't the republicans jumping on board.


    Of course, the unions support Democrats because the Democrats support the unions. Would you expect them to support Republicans just to be fair or something?

    Who supports the Republicans? Do the Republicans also support their donors?


    We need to get the money and the partisanship out of politics, but I really don't see that happening any time soon.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    The economy is interdependent. We benefit on the hard work of everybody else participating in the economy. I easily see it in my coworkers. I don't have to do anybody else's job at my firm. There are no lazy people here.
    And despite them all being hard working I suspect that there's a variety of wages earned.
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    Still waiting for a response from you.
    What response are you waiting for?
    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    whats the issue

    if the union does what it is supposed to do, the people will join, and pay the dues

    if not, well i guess they really didnt need the union to begin with....did they?

    yes...it's harder in a shop like that....but that is when you know the union ACTUALLY WORKS for the members, not some boss.... or other organization somewhere else
    If the union didn't work for the members, new officials with new policies would be elected. Why is it that anti-union people are so quick to argue "if you don't like the job you don't have to take it" when it comes to employers underpaying their staff, but suddenly become "pro labor" where everyone is entitled to work at a shop if it means infringing on unions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    So you're proposing violence. That's rather telling.
    I'm not proposing violence, merely noting the historical remedies for imbalance involve rebalancing.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Saying the truth? Yes. Your point?
    Back it up. PROVE that most of the wealth in this country was MADE while voting republican, lol. I mean, if you were to say a person made a ton of money, then BECAME republican, well, that would be believable, but not supporting of your point. If you were to say that most of the wealthiest people in the country are republican, and were BEFORE they got wealthy, well, then I'd need you to try to substantiate that claim somehow, or admit to just saying stuff.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    We need to get the money and the partisanship out of politics, but I really don't see that happening any time soon.
    This is as insane as the idea that everyone should have equal income.

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