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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Not really. We simply need to remove the laws that protect unions and their members from employers. The only power a union should have is the collective bargaining.
    Exactly. That's what unions are for.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    It may not be govt, but its involuntary, leads to more big govt, and isn't known for efficiency or quality-so one could argue there's no difference.
    In California, it's voluntary. It should be voluntary, on that I agree.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The closing down of Free Market capitalism and the installation of the Corporate State have pushed to remove economic mobility amongst the People. The long term trend is the establishment of an actual aristocracy and the death of the Middle Class. What we should do is free the markets to allow participation. You'll never get homogeneous income distribution, there will be those that get more and those that get less. But Free Market can lessen the difference between the extremes and promote a healthier middle class.
    Free market how, though? A totally free market? No law? No regulation?

    A sorta free market, with regulation, but not by government, by third parties?


    What do you mean by free market?
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It's not just a couple of salaries but the people who tend to do that are conservative. Liberals have their hands out, they just expect to be rewarded for showing up. They think they're just entitled to more, we think we actually have to work hard and earn it. That's why, in my entire professional career, I've never been in the same position more than 3-4 years, I'm always being promoted, I'm always moving up, I'm always improving and succeeding, because I have the drive and desire to do it. I know that it's *MY* responsibility. Liberals think it's someone else's responsibility.

    That's the difference.
    And now you're just saying stuff.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    In California, it's voluntary. It should be voluntary, on that I agree.
    Its still not voluntary, because they still dock your pay, its just now they wont protect you if you need "union representation". You are screwed in either case. The lefts about control, never think otherwise.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Or maybe we could all agree to restrict corporate and union influence in politics, and empower the individuals more in this country...
    Start with Obama, and get back to me.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Start with Obama, and get back to me.
    because we all know that corporate and union influence in government started on January 20, 2009.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    They aren't required to take the job though. They could always find a job in the private sector and negotiate individually.
    Yes thats true, but it hurts the working man-you are under the unions thumb or bounce. Not very free, is it?

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Money and financial stability is a basic human need, and the majority of people work out of need, not out of privilege, as a hobby, or out of human desire. At least, that is how it is for the poor and working class, and for the majority of Americans who are not billionaires and have student debts and mortgages to pay off.
    Which doesn't change a thing I said. I'm not a billionaire. I've worked hard for everything I've gotten. I've made good financial and personal decisions, I have virtually no debt and I pay for virtually everything in cash. I live within my means. It's not my fault if people can't learn to do that.

    Personally, I would like to be paid more money than I currently am. I think I deserve more. It not so much a reciprocal agreement, as what is available for now... and I NEED $ now. Making some money, is better than making no money.
    Then you need to prove to your employers that you're worth more money than you're making. You need to show that your presence and your work earn them a significant amount of money. If you can't do that, then you're just not worth more. That's how it works.

    Having a job, any job, in the current American economy is reason to be thankful... Refusing a job because it's not good enough, would be consigning oneself to poverty and a financial catastrophe. Our politicians need to recognize the difference between the welfare or "lazy poor" and the working poor. The poor who work their asses off because they are not lazy and refuse welfare, yet still live below the poverty line.
    That's true, but we're also talking about people who had low-paying jobs before the economy tanked and once it recovers fully, they'll still have low-paying jobs. That's all they will ever have because they have neither the skills, the work ethic or the education to have more. And whose fault is that?

    Furthermore, we are not all created equal. We are not all Bill Gates, nor are we all equally capable of starting up successful companies like Mr Gates did. You can't just tell anybody off the street to start up a company and expect them to be the next billionaire or even remotely successful. Some people just aren't intelligent enough to run companies or stay wealthy once they win the lottery or suddenly find wealth.
    No, we're not, so why are so many people acting like everyone ought to be treated equally? Bill Gates earned his billions. He deserves them. Someone digging ditches has not earned that much, therefore they don't deserve it. So why do we have this thread about income inequality when you, yourself, admit that there isn't work equality? People get what they've earned. If they want to get more, they have to earn more. It's not rocket science.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its still not voluntary, because they still dock your pay, its just now they wont protect you if you need "union representation". You are screwed in either case. The lefts about control, never think otherwise.
    If you get the benefits of the union, then it's only fair that you pay for it. Why should the rest of the membership support freeloaders?

    Dang liberals, always with their hands out.
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