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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    My point is that the average salary has no increased much while costs have, but your conservative principles are still true. Frankly I think govt has been more of a problem than a solution, as Reagan like to say.
    I don't know, my salary has certainly increased. Maybe the problem isn't the system but the people.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post


    The richest are getting all the profit from a smarter, harder working labor base. That's unsustainable and unjust.

    and the age of the computer, and robotics has absolutely nothing to do with this graph

    right?

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I don't know, my salary has certainly increased. Maybe the problem isn't the system but the people.
    My salary has too, but a couple of salaries doesn't make a trend. Frankly I don't know exact what's causing it, maybe the FED pumping money into the market, maybe it's the build up of taxes on the populace over the decades.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    It's indisputable fact that income inequality in the United States has grown substantially in the past few decades.

    Median nominal incomes, adjusted for inflation, have not gone up in the USA since the 50's. (Median is the halfway point, so we are talking about the middle-earner). In contrast, the per capita GDP has risen quite dramatically, due to the increased purchasing power of the upper echelon.


    I pose three questions to you:

    1.) What has caused this phenomenon
    2.) What are the long term implications if the trend is allowed to continue
    3.) What, if anything, should be done to adjust our course


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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    The economy is interdependent. We benefit on the hard work of everybody else participating in the economy. I easily see it in my coworkers. I don't have to do anybody else's job at my firm. There are no lazy people here.
    Which is unfortunately not as many people as it ought to be. There are a lot of people in society who do not do hard work, who hardly want to get out of bed in the morning and they don't have to because they get a government check. There are far too many people who get complacent, who just get into a position and stay there and wonder why they're not getting more and more money. That's because they don't take on more and more responsibility. They have to continually and constantly earn it. I see people who say they've been in the same job for 20 years and I have to wonder what the heck is wrong with them. Why haven't they been promoted? Why aren't they doing their bosses job? Why haven't they continued to move up? That's a problem and they have to take a serious look at themselves to see where they are failing.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    i have zero issues with unions under the following restrictions

    1. it has to be an open shop.....we live in a democracy.....not fair to make people join something they dont necessarily believe in

    2. Dues have to be optional.....if the union does good work, then the dues will be paid.....if not, the union leaders can starve

    I dont really think unions are necessary myself anymore.....but if people want them, fine

    But they have to be open....not dictorial
    I'll add two more...firing union members has to be legal for companies to do, without lawyers and mountains of paperwork...and firing members on strike has to be legal, without lawyers and mountains of paperwork.


    As they currently stand, unions can FORCE employers to do what they want, because letting go of those employees and replacing them isn't even an option.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Prove that's the case. Yes, the richest are getting richer, but laborers are still agreeing to work for those wages. It's a reciprocal agreement. They could refuse to work for those wages if they wished and start their own companies to compete with the richest. So again I ask, what have the laborers done to earn more.
    Money and financial stability is a basic human need, and the majority of people work out of need, not out of privilege, as a hobby, or out of human desire. At least, that is how it is for the poor and working class, and for the majority of Americans who are not billionaires and have student debts and mortgages to pay off.

    Personally, I would like to be paid more money than I currently am. I think I deserve more. It not so much a reciprocal agreement, as what is available for now... and I NEED $ now. Making some money, is better than making no money.

    Having a job, any job, in the current American economy is reason to be thankful... Refusing a job because it's not good enough, would be consigning oneself to poverty and a financial catastrophe. Our politicians need to recognize the difference between the welfare or "lazy poor" and the working poor. The poor who work their asses off because they are not lazy and refuse welfare, yet still live below the poverty line.

    Furthermore, we are not all created equal. We are not all Bill Gates, nor are we all equally capable of starting up successful companies like Mr Gates did. You can't just tell anybody off the street to start up a company and expect them to be the next billionaire or even remotely successful. Some people just aren't intelligent enough to run companies or stay wealthy once they win the lottery or suddenly find wealth.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    My salary has too, but a couple of salaries doesn't make a trend. Frankly I don't know exact what's causing it, maybe the FED pumping money into the market, maybe it's the build up of taxes on the populace over the decades.
    It's not just a couple of salaries but the people who tend to do that are conservative. Liberals have their hands out, they just expect to be rewarded for showing up. They think they're just entitled to more, we think we actually have to work hard and earn it. That's why, in my entire professional career, I've never been in the same position more than 3-4 years, I'm always being promoted, I'm always moving up, I'm always improving and succeeding, because I have the drive and desire to do it. I know that it's *MY* responsibility. Liberals think it's someone else's responsibility.

    That's the difference.
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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Do you feel the same when a corporation donates money to causes some stockholders disagree with?
    No I dont.

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    Re: Income Inequality

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    i have zero issues with unions under the following restrictions

    1. it has to be an open shop.....we live in a democracy.....not fair to make people join something they dont necessarily believe in

    2. Dues have to be optional.....if the union does good work, then the dues will be paid.....if not, the union leaders can starve

    I dont really think unions are necessary myself anymore.....but if people want them, fine

    But they have to be open....not dictorial
    I could go with that if they have to negotiate their salary directly with the employer.

    Taking union wages without paying dues is freeloading.

    And of course that's the aim of right to work. To replace union rates with individually negotiated ones. The much lower ones.
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