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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Exactly Obama does not make a move that does does affect his political leanings.
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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Legal by whose laws?

    Are we talking Syrian Law here?
    International Law?
    United States Federal Law?
    Constitutional Law? (If so, by whose Constitution?)
    Po-dunk Alabamian Law?
    Tea Bagger Delusional quack pot law?

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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    Actually, Vesper, I care. I'm tired of this admin; it is becoming obvious that all decisions are based upon U.S. political outcome. Political party before country; not something new but finely honed by the admin presently in office.

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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    Well, ISIS does not work as a direct agent of Damascus and under its operational control.

    Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?



    I think retaliatory raids or air strikes for something another nation or today I would include an terrorist organization with no authorization from congress perfectly legal and I have no problem with them. But a sustained bombing campaign such as Libya or ISIS today that authorization from congress should be requested.

    Having said that, I keep hearing this bombing of ISIS is done IAW some resolution, law, legislation passed during the Bush II administration. I don't remember it and it could very well be. But if this thing, bombing which is expected to go on for years getting congress authorization I think should be done regardless of what resolution, legislation, law or whatever was passed during Bush II.

    So I am not sure if it is legal or not. Frankly I think it is needed. But I would feel a lot better about it if congress gave it approval. Something planned and scheduled to last years is not a retaliatory strike. I would like to see congress declare war on ISIS and bring the full weight of the USA to bear on them. No silly resolution which is not more than an opinion of congress. Do the real deal. Half measures and limited this and limited that will only make the situation worse. Do it right or do not do it.
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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    No, and that's why they didn't start a war yet.

    Under the assume of potential or possible attacks every country could do the same.

    However, the airstrikes are really necessary, based on what ISIS is. (that's for the morale side)
    But, what is US giving to the world as example by ignoring the international tools.

    What would we say if Russia or China would follow the same example.
    You're just playing with words. You are bombing a foreign country with military power, let's call that baseball.

    FFS, war is war. This bull**** started by the ever progressive bubble head Harry Truman in declaring the invasion of North Korea by 100 thousand troops a "police action" How long did the democrat slime Lyndon Johnson play word games with Vietnam; let's call that badmonton.

    Look, the tripe who have been defending this turd of a president have been whining about BUSH for six years, a virtual daily sob fest about all his perceived failings as a president.

    But you cannot escape the truth, Bush did what presidents are supposed to do, he sought approval from congress and got it, by a HUGE majority.

    Obama instead is running his own private baseball game, his way, his rules, congress can go **** itself....obviously because he's too much of a coward to want to have to face the people he called "enemies" and whom he's been bashing since he walked into office. Payback is a bitch, and Obama is too afraid to eat his.
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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I think retaliatory raids or air strikes for something another nation or today I would include an terrorist organization with no authorization from congress perfectly legal and I have no problem with them. But a sustained bombing campaign such as Libya or ISIS today that authorization from congress should be requested.

    Having said that, I keep hearing this bombing of ISIS is done IAW some resolution, law, legislation passed during the Bush II administration. I don't remember it and it could very well be. But if this thing, bombing which is expected to go on for years getting congress authorization I think should be done regardless of what resolution, legislation, law or whatever was passed during Bush II.

    So I am not sure if it is legal or not. Frankly I think it is needed. But I would feel a lot better about it if congress gave it approval. Something planned and scheduled to last years is not a retaliatory strike. I would like to see congress declare war on ISIS and bring the full weight of the USA to bear on them. No silly resolution which is not more than an opinion of congress. Do the real deal. Half measures and limited this and limited that will only make the situation worse. Do it right or do not do it.


    If such a measure was passed in the Bush administration why did he bother seeking and getting full approval by congress?

    Look, the left is reeling because Obama is exposes as a lesser president than Bush, the man who voted "present" is afraid to have to face the same attitude to HIS war.
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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    If such a measure was passed in the Bush administration why did he bother seeking and getting full approval by congress?

    Look, the left is reeling because Obama is exposes as a lesser president than Bush, the man who voted "present" is afraid to have to face the same attitude to HIS war.
    With the potential ISIS has along with it billions to do damage to the United States, I wouldn't call this Obama's war. It is America's war. Although what the president got from congress was 500 million to train Syrian Rebels, not authorization to bomb ISIS in Syria.

    Obama Authorized ISIS Strikes in Syria, and Congress Is OK With That | New Republic

    Now using half measures trying to check ISIS and half measures in my opinion will not defeat ISIS, this bombing campaign lasting years may very well become Obama's war like Vietnam was Johnson's war.
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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    Well, ISIS does not work as a direct agent of Damascus and under its operational control.

    Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?



    You do realize IS and Damascus are bitter enemy's and that by arming rebel groups in Syria we gave IS weapons and power.

    Not to mention toppling Saddam, which basically broke the middle east, because his authoritarian government was the only thing stopping the Sunni, shia, and Kurds from all trying to kill each other.

    Frankly i think bombing IS plays right into their hands. It will bolster their numbers in ways they can only dream, and they know it.

    Technically we have not had a legally (in terms of the constitution) declared war since the last time congress formally declared it, which was WWII. They authorize military actions all the time under the war powers act, an act that goes directly against the constitution.

    The smart thing to do would be appeal to the un, not give Putin more excuses to go invading country's that did not attack him/us.

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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Nothing has been proven to be a clear and present danger. If anything it's murky and unknown. Hardly adequate.
    No.

    Not to us, but to Iraq and the surrounding area, ISIS/IS is a clear and present danger that needs to be eradicated. The only question is the methods to meet that goal.
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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    Well, ISIS does not work as a direct agent of Damascus and under its operational control.

    Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?



    Of course not. Only had Obama sought and secured a declaration of war against the Islamic state from congress, and only if he sought and secured president Assad's permission to enter Syrian airspace. And Obama's wagging a disapproving finger at Putin, lol. US policy, doesn't matter whether democratic or republican president, is hypocritical.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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