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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    Deeply pondering the situation I realized that not one world leader sought my opinion... as if my opinion doesn't matter. So in full rebel mode, I announce...., I really don't give a damn!

    The U.S. admin is so far beyond inept there is not a properly descriptive term for it's malfeasance. This admin appears to base actions solely upon expected U.S political results.

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    Hi Thom!

    Thought I would edit that rather fine and eloquent piece to spiff it up a bit and give it authenticity.

    The U.S. admin is so far in excess of inept there is not a properly descriptive term for it's malfeasance. This admin's are actions solely based upon expected U.S political results.
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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    Well, ISIS does not work as a direct agent of Damascus and under its operational control.

    Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?



    Of course. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be. Even if they weren't I wouldn't particularly care though.

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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Hi Thom!

    Thought I would edit that rather fine and eloquent piece to spiff it up a bit and give it authenticity.

    The U.S. admin is so far in excess of inept there is not a properly descriptive term for it's malfeasance. This admin's are actions solely based upon expected U.S political results.
    Howdy FAL,

    Excellent 'word-smithing' sir; deserving my properly humbled thank you for improving the clarity of my exasperation.

    (notation: "in excess of inept" use often.)

    Hat tip to you sir.

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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Why shouldn't air strikes against a clear and present enemy in a region with a failed state be legal?
    According to Iraq's constitutional entitlements, the government of Iraq can use force internally to defeat an armed movement that has imposed itself forcibly upon a significant part of its territory.

    But in Syria .....
    The US and UK might argue that IS represents a manifest threat to their own security. However, according to Article 51 of the UN Charter, self-defence only applies to actual or imminent armed attacks, rather than potential or possible attacks.
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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Why shouldn't air strikes against a clear and present enemy in a region with a failed state be legal?
    Would you call it legal for Russia if it would have invaded Ukraine when it was a failed state (even for a while)?
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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Nothing has been proven to be a clear and present danger. If anything it's murky and unknown. Hardly adequate.
    Doing nothing was a clear and present danger to the mid term elections.

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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Who's going to stop them if they aren't?

    The UN? I don't believe.

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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Nothing has been proven to be a clear and present danger.
    If anything it's murky and unknown. Hardly adequate.


    Was Al Qaeda a clear and present danger before 9/11?

    Should we wait until ISIS kills a few thousand people in the USA before we go after them?

    What do you think?

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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    Howdy FAL,

    Excellent 'word-smithing' sir; deserving my properly humbled thank you for improving the clarity of my exasperation.

    (notation: "in excess of inept" use often.)

    Hat tip to you sir.

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    Thom Paine


    I was just so moved by your clarity and economy of words I felt it a mission to enhance the already established work of art, a gilded frame to the masterpiece!
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    Re: Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    Well, ISIS does not work as a direct agent of Damascus and under its operational control.

    Do you find airstrikes in Syria as legal?



    Did those targeted present a clear and present danger to Americans? Yes.

    Were their leaders "rational actors" like many world leaders who might condemn America but have no intention at all of actually instigating violence against Americans? No.

    Was the Syrian government in control of those areas, or were they in any position to stop ISIL (and especially Khorasan) from carrying out their plans? No.

    As with so much else that the government must sometimes do, I think it best to butcher an old Burger King slogan: sometimes ya gotta break the {Constitutional} rules. It might not be either lawful or Constitutional...but it was sure as heck necessary. If y'all will remember, it was estimated that in addition to the lives lost in the 9/11 attacks, the attacks and their immediate aftermath (like the nationwide shutdown of all air traffic (except for the Bush-approved departure of the bin Laden family)) cost the American economy $100B.

    Maybe not legal, but sure as heck necessary...and I somehow strongly doubt the Republicans would have done any less had they been in charge.
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