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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Two radically different cultural norms.

    See the EU, and how well THAT'S working out for THEM.
    Different how? I don't see the differences.

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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    Quote Originally Posted by dogtowner View Post
    You could make the case that US CAN MEX are already a bloc via NAFTA.
    Not strictly speaking the same as EU but close.
    True, in a way. Still a lot of political, financial, and legal barriers between the countries though.

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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I'm Canadian bub bub.
    Then I'm guessing you just haven't thought it through. No worries.

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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    Would never happen, because Canada would turn us down.
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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    Unity between the United States, Canada, and eventually Mexico is generally perceived as inevitable in the next 100 years. The things that keep us from being separate countries are shrinking at an exponential rate and will continue to shrink at an exponential rate. Eventually, political and economic disunity for the North American Region will become an anachronism.
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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    As an older Canadian, I don't believe this will ever happen in my lifetime, but I do believe that a more comprehensive "union" will eventually happen - although I answered the poll by saying, no.

    It is impractical, in my view, to talk about one country because Canada and Canadians would be lost and swamped by numbers. Several of our Provinces would be the equivalent of Rhode Island in population yet significantly greater in wealth of resources both land and natural. Canadians would never agree to simply being absorbed and become 12 new States in the United States of North America. Our voices and world view would become virtually irrelevant when drowned out by 10 times our population to the south.

    I do believe, however, that we are on an inevitable course to at least an economic union. The wealth necessary to exploit a lot of our natural resources already comes from American entities, as well as Asian sources. The current government in Canada, a conservative one, is much more open to this type of joint development than many on the Canadian left.

    There's not enough time and space to go into all the logistical complications involved in becoming one country. The largest impediment, most likely, would be the emotional one. Canadians, if they're being honest, love Americans, love having America as our neighbour, and selfishly love that any military attack on Canada would be seen as an attack on America, allowing us to skimp on defense spending that is nowhere near adequate for the size and scope of country we need to defend. America is like a big brother that allows us to be confident that no one is going to bully us. And lots of Canadians, with all that, are still a little snobbish about considering themselves better than Americans. It's similar to Toronto and Torontonians often believing they're pretty much a younger version of NYC and we will get there in time.

    Bottom line, closer economic union is inevitable but joining under one national umbrella won't happen unless at some point America decides it's in their best interests to take us by force.
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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Would never happen, because Canada would turn us down.
    Why do you say that?

    In my opinion, the reason it won't happen anytime soon is because of rural, rightwing Americans. I think you could sell the benefits to Canadians and urban, educated Americans in the north.

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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Different how? I don't see the differences.
    We value different things. Hockey vs Football. Motorcycles vs snowmobiles. Cops on bikes vs cops on horses (I kid) ( but not really) (no, I kid)

    You would force one set of rules, one set of leaders, and one currency onto two different acting, different thinking groups of people.

    That's just gonna create hostility, and instability.

    Again, see EU.
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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    Well not all of Canada speaks English, we have a sizable Francophone population as well. Also politically we are very different, if Canada joined the U.S., the president and the House would always be Democrat. Despite all of our similarities we also have out differences. I would never support it in a million years.

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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    As an older Canadian, I don't believe this will ever happen in my lifetime, but I do believe that a more comprehensive "union" will eventually happen - although I answered the poll by saying, no.

    It is impractical, in my view, to talk about one country because Canada and Canadians would be lost and swamped by numbers. Several of our Provinces would be the equivalent of Rhode Island in population yet significantly greater in wealth of resources both land and natural. Canadians would never agree to simply being absorbed and become 12 new States in the United States of North America. Our voices and world view would become virtually irrelevant when drowned out by 10 times our population to the south.

    I do believe, however, that we are on an inevitable course to at least an economic union. The wealth necessary to exploit a lot of our natural resources already comes from American entities, as well as Asian sources. The current government in Canada, a conservative one, is much more open to this type of joint development than many on the Canadian left.

    There's not enough time and space to go into all the logistical complications involved in becoming one country. The largest impediment, most likely, would be the emotional one. Canadians, if they're being honest, love Americans, love having America as our neighbour, and selfishly love that any military attack on Canada would be seen as an attack on America, allowing us to skimp on defense spending that is nowhere near adequate for the size and scope of country we need to defend. America is like a big brother that allows us to be confident that no one is going to bully us. And lots of Canadians, with all that, are still a little snobbish about considering themselves better than Americans. It's similar to Toronto and Torontonians often believing they're pretty much a younger version of NYC and we will get there in time.

    Bottom line, closer economic union is inevitable but joining under one national umbrella won't happen unless at some point America decides it's in their best interests to take us by force.

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    I think what will eventually happen will be an arrangement similar to the United Kingdom.... minus the king. I think the benefits to the Canadian people would be too much to pass up. If you're a business owner in Canada, imagine being able to operate freely in the 50 states without the legal, currency, and political hurdles. Talk about opening up new markets.

    If you're a regular joe in Canada, imagine being able to travel to Florida or California with nothing but a drivers licence, or being able to send your kids to Harvard or Stanford without having to fit in to a tight international student quota. It's about being able to move, travel and live anywhere you want, get whatever job you want, and opening up a ton of new doors. I can't imagine the Canadian people, especially in Western Canada, passing that up if it were actually laid out in front of them.

    I think it will happen eventually, though, maybe not in our lifetime. I think the principal resistance today would be from politicians who don't see the need due to a weakened Russia and Europe, as well as from rightwing southerners who would fear that the balance would tip in favor of the left as Canadians are seen as more leftist.

    However, I believe that at the end of the day, the almighty dollar will win out. It makes too much economic sense. Canada is too vast and underexploited with its small population, and needs to be linked to the industrial and financial machine that is the USA in order to see its assets fully realized. We would both be wealthier with an economic union and, at the end of the day, I think that will win out at some point.

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