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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    So what? It's an important part of my heritage as an American, and as a descendant of some of the great men who participated in that conflict. It is part of the history that has shaped and defined the culture in which I live today, and which makes this culture different from the other culture to the north, which was founded on cowardice and treason.
    Wow man.

    First of all, you realize that nearly every American and Canadian is descended from the scraps who couldn't hack it back in Europe, right? Not that that's a bad thing, but to come on here beating your chest about your proud heritage and then belittling that of other people is just laughable.

    America has never been about birthrights and bloodlines. We're a nation of outcasts and scrubs. Our national pride comes from being self-made.... picking ourselves up by our bootstraps and being the best we can be.

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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The premise of this thread seems to be that Canada has a ton of natural resources, the United States has a lot of natural resources, but neither nation has as much as Russia, so we need to merge in order to compete.

    Per capita GDP for Russia: $18,408

    Per capita GDP for the United States: $54,980

    Per capita GDP for Canada: $44,656

    I don't think we have anything to worry about competing with Russia. Natural resources can help with economic growth, but many nations that are very rich in natural resources are poor. Innovation is far more important in today's global economy and the United States and Canada have it in spades. Hell West Virginia has abundant Natural Resources and it hasn't done that much good at all economically.

    As to this notion that Canada needs the United States to help exploit its natural resources. That assumes that Canadians want to develop every square in of their country. They don't. They like having a low population density with a massive wilderness. As others have pointed out, I do think we will become more economically united over time as we already are to a large degree. I would imagine it will get even easier for Canadians to live and work here and for Americans to live and work there, but I don't think we will ever become one country.
    Per capita GDP of Qatar: $98,814
    Per capita GDP of Luxembourg: $78,670
    Per capita GDP of Singapore: $64,584
    Per capita GDP of Norway: $54,947
    Per capita GDP of Brunei: $53,431


    Perhaps per capita GDP isnt't the best measure...

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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Japan is a case in point for rich country poor in natural resources.
    Right but.... Japan is dependent on it's exports to the United States, it's also dependent on the United States for national security.

    I don't want that kind of model for my country. I want something more solid, a more internal-based economy.

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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    It is our manifest destiny. Onwards to Toronto!
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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Well you would start having to otherwise you are discriminating against Francophones.
    It would only be discrimination if we included Spanish and English, but not French. Since we treat all languages equally, there is no discrimination.

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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Per capita GDP of Qatar: $98,814
    Per capita GDP of Luxembourg: $78,670
    Per capita GDP of Singapore: $64,584
    Per capita GDP of Norway: $54,947
    Per capita GDP of Brunei: $53,431


    Perhaps per capita GDP isnt't the best measure...
    It's a great measure of prosperity for a country. The only countries that exceed ours our small countries usually sitting on a ton of oil, or city states that are centers for trade and finance. The per-capita GDP of Singapore would be more accurately compared to that of NYC which by the way is $111,386.
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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    It is our manifest destiny. Onwards to Toronto!
    Good start. Toronto might be the only place in Canada where a lot of people want to be Americans.
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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Leave bad enough alone.

    This will not happen.

    Don't take my word for this,just wait and see.

    There's a lot better chance of Quebec seceding from Canada then there is of Canada ever joining the USA.
    D'accord.
    And there's no chance of Quebec leaving Canada.
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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Free access to the 50 united states (would you want to retire in Edmonton or Ft Lauderdale?)

    Access to a bigger pool of jobs

    Access to the wealthiest and largest consumer market in the world

    Access to the biggest and best universities and research facilities in the world

    Access to the biggest and best military in the world

    Protection, people, and resources to develop their natural assets, such as the Arctic regions

    Access to warm water shipping ports


    The list goes on and on, but I have to assume you're joking. The USA is the wealthiest country on earth, you don't have to stretch your mind very far to figure out why hitching your wagon on to a winner might be a good idea.
    So what's the bottom line, dollar-wise? How much would it take for you, for example, to sell out your country?
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    Re: Should the USA and Canada be one country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Right but.... Japan is dependent on it's exports to the United States, it's also dependent on the United States for national security.

    I don't want that kind of model for my country. I want something more solid, a more internal-based economy.
    Nothing wrong with wanting your country to do well or to work a certain way.
    It doesnt change the fact that Japan is a wealthy nation with few natural resources
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