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    Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

    Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement, given the recent events with ISIS and current status of Afghanistan, that you did before?

    Think back to your opinion when Bush II first invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. Think back to when Obama withdrew from Iraq. Think about the current alleged wind down in Afghanistan. Doesn't really matter what your opinion was, just ask yourself if you feel the same now as you did then. And why do you feel the same or differently.

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    Re: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

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    Afghanistan: It was a losing proposition from the beginning. Let's face reality, NOBODY wins in Afghanistan. It was a fool's errand. But, due to circumstances we had to go. I supported us going, and I still feel that we had to, but I also feel we should have withdrawn several years ago. And to be honest, I feel we owe them nothing regarding political stability. Once we were done, we should have left... period.

    Iraq: I was against us invading from the start, and still feel it was dumb. I support(ed) our withdrawal, and still do. Does ISIS change that? That's a tough one. I haven't changed my opinion (regarding withdrawal), but if anything could, this could be it. We'll have to see how it unfolds.
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    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

    I still am adamant that no matter how many international coalitions and targeted strikes we have we will not solve this problem. This problem is fueled by anti-american feelings in the region along with traditional religious divides. Neither one will be solved with drone and air strikes. We might have killed 50 terrorists last night, but we also killed 10 civilians. What about their families that were innocent? Those 50 fighters are replaced with 50 more from the families of US collateral damage. Combating aggression with aggression is like combating the national debt by adding more debt (which is the logic of this administration, so what more can I expect in this scenario)
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    Re: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

    We can't go back in time and change what has already been done.

    So for right now we're stuck with the current situation.

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    Re: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

    i was not nearly as anti war when the US first went into Iraq, so i didn't question it as much. plus, 9/11 had just happened. i didn't like that we were doing it, and thought that the WMD angle was a bit shaky, but i can't say that i actively opposed it. i guess the best way i can put it is that i wanted to support it because opposing it felt like not being behind the troops. i definitely respect those who serve in our military.

    now i understand that the more we do over there, the more these idiots are going to recruit and the more things will get unstable. it is impossible to impose a democracy there. and if we cut one snake in half, two even more terrible snakes grow from its corpse. i also have come to understand that we are doing Saudi Arabia's job for them, and we are doing it for free. also, we can't afford it, and we are unwilling to raise taxes to pay for it. not to mention that ****head Assad is actually benefiting from our involvement. there is no good side to take here.

    i support ending foreverwar immediately, bringing all troops home as fast as we can get them out of there, and closing every embassy in a hostile region. enough.

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    Re: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement, given the recent events with ISIS and current status of Afghanistan, that you did before?

    Think back to your opinion when Bush II first invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. Think back to when Obama withdrew from Iraq. Think about the current alleged wind down in Afghanistan. Doesn't really matter what your opinion was, just ask yourself if you feel the same now as you did then. And why do you feel the same or differently.

    Please elaborate.
    It's still pretty much the same. I was against our interventionism before and against it now. It only makes matters worse.
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    Re: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

    Let's see...we bombed a group no one has ever heard of (seems they a were about to attack the US) and our secondary target was ISIS command and control centers that seem to still be mostly standing.

    Paint my ass confused.
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    Re: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    We can't go back in time and change what has already been done.

    So for right now we're stuck with the current situation.
    So that means it actually is Obama's war now...not Bush?
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    Re: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

    I was not happy about Bush going to Iraq, but we all knew he was going to do it. This is just plain stupid.

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    Re: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    So that means it actually is Obama's war now...not Bush?
    This ignorance is 100% on Obama.

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