View Poll Results: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement

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  • Yes, I still feel the same.

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  • No, I have switched my thoughts.

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    Re: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's not only okay for the President. It's okay for any civilian to comment on military action and support any position therein.

    "If you don't volunteer, you cannot support military action" is pathetic BS.
    Going much farther than my premise.

    First, I referred only to the willingness of a person either to volunteer or fight without the military; not to whether they actually volunteer.

    Also, to say that it's "not okay to comment" implies that it should somehow be a crime or a tort. Obviously I don't believe it should. You're free to comment on whatever you like, but that doesn't mean that your comment has any integrity or deserves any respect. (Much like the comments that guy from Duck Dynasty made about gays.)
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    Re: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    First, I referred only to the willingness of a person either to volunteer or fight without the military; not to whether they actually volunteer.
    That's even more stupid. You're basically requiring that your opponent be a ****ing lunatic or their opinion is not legitimate. "Go fight without the military"... what kind of asswipe does that.

    Can you see the ignorance folded upon itself in such a moronic position?

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    Re: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Ad hominem!?!? Ok, well thank you for that, but do remember that you are the one that rushed me with the accusation of dishonesty to begin with. Otherwise, you and I wouldn't even be speaking!
    I addressed what I saw as a politically motivated distortion and untruth with no basis in fact. I didn't suggest that you didn't believe the distortion, so there was no accusation of intentional dishonesty directed at you personally.
    "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776

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    Re: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's even more stupid. You're basically requiring that your opponent be a ****ing lunatic or their opinion is not legitimate. "Go fight without the military"... what kind of asswipe does that.
    Still can't see the difference between being willing to do something and actually doing it, can you?

    Bottom line: if you're willing to put someone else through something that you're not willing to go through yourself, you are a piece of fecal matter.
    I fight against the ignorant, irresponsible, and/or closed-minded.
    This group is the worst enemy of America and its freedoms. It includes, but is not limited to, all Trump supporters.

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    Re: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Giving a coward a rifle and a uniform does not make him any less of a coward.
    Soldiers have their own ways of dealing with cowards in their midst.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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    Re: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    the current war is not likely to be completed in hours. the US will most likely be mired down for years, looking for an exit strategy. either that, or we will just bomb and drone a bunch of places, and then gradually ease out of it.
    The exit strategy should be victory.

    it's the job of the regional hegemons, such as Saudi Arabia and Iran. not the US.
    I know that you do not like the Europe analogy, however it is appropriate. ISIS has much deeper goals then just creating a caliphate in Iraq and Syria. We must defeat ISIS by whatever means necessary. It is not just a middle east problem. It is an international problem. If we do not cut them down to size in Iraq and Syria, we will be fighting them on the streets in New York. Remember 9/11/01.

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    Re: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It's the extremes people have gone to defend failed policy. The phony "war on terror" cannot be won, has not been won and will not be won no matter what party is in the White House. But it's job security for the military and the defense contractors as well as other big businesses.
    You would have fit in well with the WW2 era peaceniks who thought....."Those Nazis will never be defeated. We should just appease them".

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    Re: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So! I suppose in that case it would make me an ally of George Bush on that issue as well. He's the one that stated two months into the war in Iraq that Al Qaeda was decimated. Guess he didn't know who he was fighting.
    Do you have a link to that claim?

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    Re: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Do you honestly think that the majority is never immature or small-minded? .
    Why? Because they do not and never did want obamacare?


    Not at all; just that they have to be willing to do so if they want to earn the right to support the war.
    That is so insane. Does that include your grandma? The disabled? Amputees and paraplegics? Are you the "thought police? What gives you the perceived right to declare what others must be willing to do in order to have a given opinion?

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    Re: Do you still feel the same now about our middle east involvement...

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    I was strongly against the Iraq War in 2003, because I was afraid it would be a huge mistake. Now I feel frustrated because all my fears have been confirmed. On the long run, that war created even a much bigger mess than it was supposed to end.

    I feel differently about Afghanistan now. I felt in 2001 and the years on that it was a justified war, and was optimistic about the outcome, that some kind of nation building was possible and would be successful. Now, not anymore.

    I was ambivalent about Obama's withdrawal from Iraq. On one side, I found it a good and necessary step, but wasn't sure if the job was really done. And I ultimately knew too few about the situation to make an educated guess whether the time was right or not. Now I feel it was a mistake.
    The mistake was not leaving a contingent of troops behind to prevent what is now going on. We are leaving a contingent behind in Afghanistan.

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