Then we need to get in a political position to treat war as war rather then a police action.My point is we were not in a political position at the time under Bush 43 or Obama to completely dictate terms of our occupation of Iraq, that is another sounds nice but absent of reality comment you have made.
The reality is that the biggest problem besides politicizing wars as we do today is the United Nations. The left thinks we need a permission slip from the UN for anything war related. The UN is almost completely useless. It is a failed version of the previously failed League of Nations. The world had a chance to get it right but simply repeated the same mistakes.Typical handling of nations where a government is removed then and now is not the same, in some ways that is a problem but is reality.
it's way past time for that region to handle its own problems. the way we make that happen is to force them to by getting out of the region.
My point is that if we go to war, it should be treated as a war and not a police action. If we go to war, we need to go all in and get the job done...like we did with Germany and Japan. We fought a world war on two fronts and were in and mostly out in roughly four years. Afghanistan is still going on because we limited the rules of engagement. Same thing happened in Vietnam and Korea. Iraq would have ended much sooner if we had taken the insurgency seriously to begin with and started the surge strategy much sooner. Americans generally support wars we get involved in....however when war drags on, we get war weary. We need to stop politicizing wars to the point where one side of congress wants to win and the other side wants to lose. And we need to be willing to play "whack a mole" against terrorists. That might actually prevent all out war. If we had done so in late 2012 in Syria, ISIS would not be in Iraq now.
plus, we're helping out that ****head Assad. now there's a ****er who needs to be droned. **** that asshole.
this war is a mistake. we need to get all of our people out of that region and let it stabilize. do you really think that even if we killed every member of Islamic State (which we won't) that something worse wouldn't rise from its ashes? because that's what we're looking at here.
get them out now. Saudi Arabia and Iran, this one's your ****ty situation to fix.
Considering the brutality of ISIS, I think that is beginning to happen.the best we can really hope for is that Saudi Arabia and a couple other nations will step up and say "cut it out, ****ers. this is bad for business."
That's because we have a commander in chief who has a nasty habit of telegraphing his punches or lack of them. When he outright and publicly takes US ground troops off the table....ISIS gets the impression that all they will have to do is survive some air strikes and wait us out. I don't think we need to mobilize a hundred thousand ground troops, however there may come a point where ISIS may not be defeated without at least some ground troops. Hopefully not ours, but we should not take that off the table.the current strategy will not work, and it has potential to further destabilize the region.
Assad is an asshole...however ISIS at this point is a much more dangerous gaggle of bloody murderous assholes.plus, we're helping out that ****head Assad. now there's a ****er who needs to be droned. **** that asshole.
That is the attitude that many European nations and for a while the USA had when Hitler and the Third Reich started their conquest of Europe. Everyone figured it would stop somewhere and if they remained neutral the Nazis would bypass them. The fanatics in the middle east do not have a stopping point in mind.this war is a mistake. we need to get all of our people out of that region and let it stabilize. do you really think that even if we killed every member of Islamic State (which we won't) that something worse wouldn't rise from its ashes? because that's what we're looking at here.
And then what happens if ISIS wins?get them out now. Saudi Arabia and Iran, this one's your ****ty situation to fix.
but let's say theoretically that it does work, and we kill most of Islamic State. another will pop up, just like with Al Qaeda. then we'll be expected to do it again. and again. and again.