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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yes I do. I know that he has come to terms with how important it is for our own security so just like he got Ben Laden, I trust him to really jam up this ISIS nonsense. I think his critics; of which I am one, are too quick to judge him on these decisions because armed conflict is a very fluid thing, and what you said yesterday may not be true today. Moreover, you don't want to telegraph your punches, particulalry in this day and age. Secrecy can be very difficult.
    Exactly my earlier point. He's already telegraphed that which he won't do. Foolishly limiting his options later, should the situation change and demand it.

    Since he's promised 'no boots on the ground', it'll take a long time (read long decision delay on putting boots on the ground - like the Afghanistan surge and even then not to the level requested by the generals), and further giving away the tactical advantages, making the mission all the more harder (read more expensive in blood and treasure) for the military to achieve.

    You sure must have a really low bar set for this guy's performance already, claiming that you believe that it's been good to date. Fact of the matter, is that it hasn't, and there's no way to magically distort it into that it has.
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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Do I or anyone who has studied the history of the Vietnam War trust a President who refuses to listen to his military advisers and instead allows civilians like Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice to write and dictate what America's national security doctrine will be and what the tactics should be used by the U.S. military trust Obama ? Only stupid people would.

    Obama is micromanging the U.S. military.

    He has failed to look at the mistakes that were made in 65-68.

    Obama just isn't ignoring the Weinberger / Powell Doctrin's < Weinberger Doctrine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > / > Powell Doctrine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > but is micromanging the U.S. military.

    What experiance does Obama, Jarrett and Rice have when it comes to the military and on the battlefield except using the military for PC social engineering.
    With this, I whole heartily agree. All you have to do is look at the policies he's pushed onto the military. Exactly PC social engineering.

    No leader he.
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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Exactly my earlier point. He's already telegraphed that which he won't do. Foolishly limiting his options later, should the situation change and demand it.

    Since he's promised 'no boots on the ground', it'll take a long time (read long decision delay on putting boots on the ground - like the Afghanistan surge and even then not to the level requested by the generals), and further giving away the tactical advantages, making the mission all the more harder (read more expensive in blood and treasure) for the military to achieve.

    You sure must have a really low bar set for this guy's performance already, claiming that you believe that it's been good to date. Fact of the matter, is that it hasn't, and there's no way to magically distort it into that it has.
    claiming that you believe that it's been good to date
    Where did I say that erik.
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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Of course they have a tendency to be biased towards the left when commenting on reports, as FOX has a tendency to be biased towards the right when commenting on reports. That's no mystery to the participants at DP.
    Bias and truth are two different things. The left looked like it had been punched in the gut with the trayvon martin case, for example.

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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Where did I say that erik.
    OK fine. So what of my point?
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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    OK fine. So what of my point?
    Yeah, you have to stop listening to the pundits. The drone strkies that he's been using all along as well as now, coupled with the air strikes are doing their job. The US (people) don't want to send yet more people over there to be killed. I say just keep hitting those people until the entire ME takes us seriously and does something about it themselves.
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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yeah, you have to stop listening to the pundits. The drone strkies that he's been using all along as well as now, coupled with the air strikes are doing their job. The US (people) don't want to send yet more people over there to be killed. I say just keep hitting those people until the entire ME takes us seriously and does something about it themselves.
    Blowing the windows out of empty buildings is going to make the Islamic extremists / terrorists take the US seriously?

    Interesting premise. One, I'm afraid, which doesn't seem to be founded in reality, really.
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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Blowing the windows out of empty buildings is going to make the Islamic extremists / terrorists take the US seriously?

    Interesting premise. One, I'm afraid, which doesn't seem to be founded in reality, really.
    If intellegence says that a particular building is being used, or that a certain line of cars are carrying ISIS people, and we hit both, where's the problem?

    You don't sound very realistic yourself.
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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Bias and truth are two different things. The left looked like it had been punched in the gut with the trayvon martin case, for example.
    Are you trying to say that FOX news always tells the truth?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Exactly how does that defend your claim that people on the left (people with whom you have a political difference with) are low information voters?
    Thank you for the easy question. They voted for Obama. I like easy questions.

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