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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeside View Post
    This is a chance for Obama to prove to the world that he can be a great leader. No one wants a war but a war is what we have. When these child killers brag and say that they will see us in New York city and say that their flag will fly over the WH that should be considered a declaration of war by them. I by no means have been to any War College but it seems that these killers have no time line and will slowly do what they have to do to complete their caliphate of the world. It is also time to start playing their game. They want to kill children and rape women we should be just as brutal as they are. Please don't take me as being a war monger or being to brutal, but we have to fight fire with fire.
    Wash their dead bodies in pigs blood and then just burn their bodies along with the pig carcasses.
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    You have some pretty sick ideas which aren't going to happen because the USA doesn't work that way.

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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    yes i trust on obama's policy to fight against ISIS.

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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeside View Post
    This is a chance for Obama to prove to the world that he can be a great leader. No one wants a war but a war is what we have. When these child killers brag and say that they will see us in New York city and say that their flag will fly over the WH that should be considered a declaration of war by them. I by no means have been to any War College but it seems that these killers have no time line and will slowly do what they have to do to complete their caliphate of the world. It is also time to start playing their game. They want to kill children and rape women we should be just as brutal as they are. Please don't take me as being a war monger or being to brutal, but we have to fight fire with fire. Wash their dead bodies in pigs blood and then just burn their bodies along with the pig carcasses. Rant over.
    I suggest you go live overseas for a while, preferably in a third-world nation. You can learn a lot.

    And FYI, do you know what happens when you kill those of a certain religion and deliberately do that which desecrates the bodies? By doing that, you're letting those who follow that religion know that you are at war with their religion. Suddenly we would be at war not only with the entire Middle East (Shi'a AND Sunni) (AND nuclear-armed Pakistan) (and every Muslim in America and in Europe), but also every Muslim in 400M-strong Indonesia and millions more in Singapore, Malaysia, and the Philippines. We would be "at war" with over a billion Muslims, some of whom are silly-rich, others who have access to nuclear weapons and other really bad stuff.

    Is that really what you want?

    There's a few instances in history of relatively small religious sects being destroyed by force...but NEVER has a truly major religion been destroyed by force. All that any violence such as you suggest would do would be to edify the masses that the "Christians" are at war with them, and many, many millions would die. Islam would not go away, and neither world "Christianity".

    In other words, dude, you really, truly need to tone down your rhetoric - otherwise, there might well be some Muslim extremist who will see your words and use them as his personal excuse to go kill innocent men, women, and children in the name of God...because of what you said.
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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    other.

    1. neoconservatives are not scum. we all share the same goal, which is keeping the country safe while building a stable economy. hawks are looking at the problem in a different way, and in a way which i believe is incorrect.

    2. the problems in the Middle East cannot be solved by external military force. they must be solved internally by regional hegemons like Saudi Arabia.

    Obama does not or is unwilling to understand the problem, because explaining it properly to the American people will embolden his political enemies to paint him as weak on foreign policy.

    my opinion is :

    1. the proposed strategy will not work.

    2. even if the US destroys this particular snake, two will grow from its corpse.

    end infinitywar now, and nation build in the United States.
    That region is too important to US and international security to just give up and hand over to Islamic radicals. Refusing to deal with them now will just delay the inevitable day that we'll have to take them on, later when it will be much more difficult and they have enlarged their numbers and equipped themselves using oil money. We might not be interested in fighting them but they will be coming for us.

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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    I hope a country with such a massive army doesn't actually send its President to fight the wars. Surely it would have enough resources, like experts in tactics and grunts to do the killing so that the President need only point it at the enemy and say "Go".
    Yes, but he refuses to let the military decide how to fight the war. The main concern with Obama is that he knows nothing about military matters but will try to run it anyway such as when he thought he had to patronize his base and declared that no American troops would be committed to the ground war.

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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Trust Obama?? HAHAH! Good one.

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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I have to disagree with you here.

    I don't really think Obama gives a rat's ass about our country's security. For him, it's all political. It's all, "What should I do so people don't just totally hate me and all Democrats."

    I do agree, though, that he never should tell the world what he will or will not do. All he had to do was say, "ISIS...we are going to destroy you." That's all. And then he should tell his Generals to produce a plan to do just that.
    We'll have to agree to disagree on Obama's motive. I don't think he's shown the weakness there that you say he has. I'm glad we agree on the message though.
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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    That region is too important to US and international security to just give up and hand over to Islamic radicals. Refusing to deal with them now will just delay the inevitable day that we'll have to take them on, later when it will be much more difficult and they have enlarged their numbers and equipped themselves using oil money. We might not be interested in fighting them but they will be coming for us.
    i don't agree that there is an external military solution, and i will never support endless war as two new bad guys spring up from the previous one. i also don't support putting war on the credit card. if others want a perpetual state of war, then every tax bracket needs to go up significantly to pay for it.

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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i don't agree that there is an external military solution, and i will never support endless war as two new bad guys spring up from the previous one. i also don't support putting war on the credit card. if others want a perpetual state of war, then every tax bracket needs to go up significantly to pay for it.
    Absolutely. If the country is to go to war, then the whole country should be at war. In the Iraq fiasc.. I mean war, only the military was at war, and the government put the tab on the credit card.
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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Absolutely. If the country is to go to war, then the whole country should be at war. In the Iraq fiasc.. I mean war, only the military was at war, and the government put the tab on the credit card.
    i agree. shared sacrifice. paying more in taxes is the absolute least that citizens can do when the country is at war.

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