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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    No, considering he can't even blame ISIS' beheadings on Islam.
    At most you could blame it on people who interpreted the Islamic faith to support their own twisted desires.

    Or that's how I view it, anyways.


    And, since the vast majority of Muslims show zero interest in becoming holy warriors and dieing/killing/murdering/etc. various persons, it seems to hold up under evidence.
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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Not sure at this point. His intentions might be pure, but I'm highly skeptical of his commitment to the fight at this point, in no small part due to his hesitancy to act as ISIS initially toppled key positions in Iraq. I sincerely hope that he reverses course in terms of seriousness and vowing to not send in troops no matter the circumstance. Ruling out a ground assault beforehand isn't an encouraging sign.
    Good intentions, and I doubt they even exist, are worthless without the ability and/or willingness to do whatever it takes to win. As long as we approach things the way we're doing, we are not fighting to win but fighting not to lose. There is a difference and the latter will definitely result in losing.

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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeside View Post
    This is a chance for Obama to prove to the world that he can be a great leader. No one wants a war but a war is what we have. When these child killers brag and say that they will see us in New York city and say that their flag will fly over the WH that should be considered a declaration of war by them. I by no means have been to any War College but it seems that these killers have no time line and will slowly do what they have to do to complete their caliphate of the world. It is also time to start playing their game. They want to kill children and rape women we should be just as brutal as they are. Please don't take me as being a war monger or being to brutal, but we have to fight fire with fire. Wash their dead bodies in pigs blood and then just burn their bodies along with the pig carcasses. Rant over.
    Obama has already proven to me he isn't a leader.

    Unless we are willing to fight the way we are being fought, we aren't fighting to win but to not lose. There is a difference. The problem with doing that is while there are those who say we need to stop the enemy, they aren't willing to accept what would have to be done to do it. Their view is like having a maximum balance on a credit card, paying only the minimum payment, then expecting that it will ever be paid off.

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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    At most you could blame it on people who interpreted the Islamic faith to support their own twisted desires.

    Or that's how I view it, anyways.


    And, since the vast majority of Muslims show zero interest in becoming holy warriors and dieing/killing/murdering/etc. various persons, it seems to hold up under evidence.
    No.

    A majority of Islamic people are extremist. A while ago there was a cartoonist who made a cartoon of Allah. As I'm sure you remember there was a big uproar in the Muslim community. Did you know 78% of Muslims still believe the person that made this drawing should be punished? If that's not extremist, I don't know what is. I think its a very conservative 20% of Muslims believe in martyrdom. None of what ISIS has done or will do would've ever happened without Islam.

    Dieing/killing/murdering/bombing/etc isn't the only form of religious extremism.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative65 View Post
    Obama has already proven to me he isn't a leader.

    Unless we are willing to fight the way we are being fought, we aren't fighting to win but to not lose. There is a difference. The problem with doing that is while there are those who say we need to stop the enemy, they aren't willing to accept what would have to be done to do it. Their view is like having a maximum balance on a credit card, paying only the minimum payment, then expecting that it will ever be paid off.
    Which would be what exactly?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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