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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I wouldn't acquit you and the bat incident especially if it were committed against anyone in general. I would acquit AP as he was attempting to do his duty as a parent. It is not my place to interfere.
    Parental duty to beat your kids? Jesus what century did I wake up in?

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Don't be coy, you know what I mean. You use a belt, switch, branch or whatever beyond the open hand. You should go to jail.
    Nothing wrong with breaking out the belt.

    Long as you do things properly, it's all good.

    Also, go to jail for using a belt? Spare us the bull****.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Up until the age that I can get them hooked on something else (TV, Internet, Video Games, Computer, Cell Phone) I'll use the paddle. However, if you can build the right relationship with your kid, then even that isn't necessary. However, there are some kids out there that nothing else will do.
    There is also kids where spankings will cause them to get worse, not better.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    This is just a parenting failure. If your kids fear you will physically beat them, you are doing it wrong. Fear is not an appropriate tool for use child rearing. Punishments needs to happen to correct children, and sometimes and ass whoppin is needed. But if you are leaving marks, and damn sure if you are drawing blood, or if your kids fear being beaten by you, then you are failing and are a child abuser trying to justify the abuse. I do agree that our kids need to be well adjusted. They need to do the right thing because its the right thing to do, not be terrified of being beaten by their parents if they mess up.
    Oh hippie nonsense. Fear of punishment is a great tool (especially when the boys come calling for your little girl), as long as the child also knows you love them. You look at the kids who were raised 30,40, or 50 years ago (or more), they didn't have any trouble growing up adjusted. Have you seen the suicide rates among young people? It's worse today than it ever was back then! Obviously, they're not growing up "well adjusted".

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    If it so much a challenge that you need the threat of a weapon to steer your child, maybe you should rethink having kids.
    You don't jack or **** about how we raise our children. Notice nowhere in my quote did I mention once weapon, or implement or anything that could be construed as such.

    We have raised children in our family, as family, for centuries back to before we made the move here to America, can yours say that? So we know a thing or two. I doubt highly your family can claim the same.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    You are still going after someone with a weapon. Get mad at your neighbor and hit up side the head with a wooden dowel. See how it works out. Should be no different for your child.
    An open hand to the butt through clothing is no going to injure or wound a child. Unless you cant control your anger and temper and wail away.
    A mix of apples and oranges:

    I have no authority to discipline my neighbor and would never attempt to do so. I do have authority to discipline my children and intend to do so when it is needed. Likewise, I have never hit my children in the head with anything. I have hit them on the rear and on their legs with several objects, including my hand.

    Why are you fixated on whether or not an object is used? It is the amount of force that is important, not whether or not a "weapon" was used. For example, abusive force can be applied using only the hand. And.... one can use a dowel (a rod) and be well with in lawful limits.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    There is also kids where spankings will cause them to get worse, not better.
    That doesn't negate the fact that there are kids out there that do require a spanking though. Like I said, there isn't a "one size fits all" when it comes to parenting, with my wife, she had such a relationship with her father that all he needed to do was say how disappointed he was with her, no force required. However, her brother had no respect for authority, and in fact during punishment would taunt it on, wanting it harder, and they would until he finally cried. The important part though came afterwards, and that was sitting him down and thinking about it letting him know that you still love him and that he learned the lesson.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    You are still going after someone with a weapon. Get mad at your neighbor and hit up side the head with a wooden dowel. See how it works out. Should be no different for your child.
    An open hand to the butt through clothing is no going to injure or wound a child. Unless you cant control your anger and temper and wail away.
    A child, one below 5 years old, cannot be compared to a full grown adult who has fully matured. That is ridiculous.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    WTF is that supposed to mean. You don't see the difference in grabbing a weapon or the real nice "go pick out your switch, boy".
    I see the difference, and I reject both. The only reason anyone has to accept low-levels of violence against children is to excuse their own actions.

    Spanking children teaches them one thing - violence is a way to get what one wants. Teaching children that, in itself, is abuse.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Oh hippie nonsense. Fear of punishment is a great tool (especially when the boys come calling for your little girl), as long as the child also knows you love them. You look at the kids who were raised 30,40, or 50 years ago (or more), they didn't have any trouble growing up adjusted. Have you seen the suicide rates among young people? It's worse today than it ever was back then! Obviously, they're not growing up "well adjusted".
    Then how about more hippy nonsense. Kids should be taught to think for themselves and taught to follow rules due to reason, not because they don't want to be punished. The parenting techniques talked about in this thread only convey to children that they are to do what they are told and not ask any questions about it or to think for themselves. I frankly disagree with that mindset strongly.

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