View Poll Results: is it ever allowable for a Parent to punish their child with force?

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    That actually isn't true. More women than men are charged with child abuse, yes.

    However, that is only because more women have access to children in the first place. When one accounts for the difference in population size, men are massively more likely to abuse children than women.

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    Ok, I stand corrected.

    In any case, it is interesting how this thread is going so far in that aspect.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Short version: Everything I have ever read on the topic, and personal experience, and common sense, says that severity of punishment is not as important as certainty.

    A time-out that a child knows will happen is far more effective at making him think about his actions than a beating that may or may not happen.

    Restrictions and taking away privileges can last a while and be far more devastating than a beating.

    So while, if consistently applied, a spanking is an effective method of discipline, it's not necessary as other, non-physical punishments are equally effective.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Frankly, there are a lot of adults out there that would be better off if someone smacked them in the kisser just to get their attention every once in a while.
    Good luck with that.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    I voted yes. As a child all the way through my teenage years I was about as rotten a kid as you would find. Always in trouble for something. I wasn't mean just mischevious. I got swats as a child and always thought that the excitement of what I was doing wrong was worth the swats. That is until I was older. I got into some pretty bad trouble once when I was 17. My dad literally knocked me out. afterwords he explained why he did it. He didn't apologize he just told me what I was heading for. It was at that point I realized I was heading down a bad path. My dad and I are great friends and hang out all the time. I hold no bad feeling s towards him at all and still thank him to this day for making me understand where I was heading.

    From that point until now I have never been in any kind of trouble at all.

    My daughter is now 19 years old and in college doing great. In all of her years in this world she was only ever spanked once. She was 2 years old and threw a fit and knocked over a mirror on purpose. I popped her on the rear one time and sent her to her room. She never acted out again and we get along great. The difference is she wasn't like me. She was smarter. It only took once and she realized what it took me 17 years to learn.

    I think every instance is different. I don't believe in hitting kids until they bleed but I do think Corporal Punishment is right in some cases. Just my opinion!

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Really? I beg to differ. My family is very old school that way. Like I said society doesn't get a say in how our children are raised. My family doesn't brook ANY interference from anyone. Court rooms have been filled with my very annoyed kin and our attorneys before, its quite intimidating to outsiders, as its something that is not seen often. We don't play fair or nice or by the rules when it come to people messing with our children. Our children our responsibility till they reach the age of majority. We take that responsibility exceptionally seriously.
    Be that as it may, you cannot own another person, even your own child. Your kids are your responsibility and you can and should be able to raise them as you wish, but that does not extend so far as physical abuse or neglect.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Not necessarily. Assault in my state requires both the intention to cause injury and an actual injury. If one or the other is missing it is not assault.
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    That's messed up.
    Some states separate assault (threats) and battery (physical contact). He's probably from a state that assault means battery. Of course, threats would still be illegal, but they would be filed under another form of assault instead of having two different words.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    If beating someone teaches them something (other than using violence to get what one wants), why aren't beatings part of the justice system?
    Last edited by ecofarm; 09-19-14 at 03:59 PM.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    There is quite a lot of technique in karate involving the open hand. I think open hand would demand a lot finer definition.
    Or not.
    Its really not needed and only so effective. I got spanked once, only once, and as I eas mot very young at the time it bore truth to the expression 'this is going to hurt me more than you'. It eas written all over my dad's face.
    Never gave his reason for a rematch after that.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    While I have never hit my own child (so far... knock on wood) I cannot judge others as to whether its wrong or not. I think every parent has to make their own decision because every child and each environment they grow in is different so I cant decide for others either way.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    Is there a reason that open hand is fine but some kind of instrument isn't? Or did you draw that line arbitrarily?
    While I appreciate his opposition to seriously hurting children, I think everyone knows why lines are drawn regarding this subject - to excuse ones own actions.

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