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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Yes. Acquittal all counts. You don't get a say in the rearing of others children. Its none of your business.

    You also don't know the whole story on the AP matter.
    Whole story? Saw the pics and he admits to it. So its pretty clear cut. And please tell me what a 4 year old could possibly do to deserve that?
    Will some kids test you? Yea, I have friends and relatives who have children they let run wild and then wonder why the kid don't listen. But at 4 I really don't think a child has the mentality to really understand their actions.
    So, if a 4 year old can push an adult that far. They adult is the one that needs correction.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If a woman assaulted me she would have trouble causing me any real injury unless she picked up a weapon of some sort. If I decided to file charges against her the law would still prosecute her for assault. Just because your assault didn't physically injure the individual you assaulted doesn't mean it's not assault. It just means that either you didn't apply enough force to cause injury or you were stopped before injury occurred.
    Not necessarily. Assault in my state requires both the intention to cause injury and an actual injury. If one or the other is missing it is not assault.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    You realize that you don't own your children.
    Really? I beg to differ. My family is very old school that way. Like I said society doesn't get a say in how our children are raised. My family doesn't brook ANY interference from anyone. Court rooms have been filled with my very annoyed kin and our attorneys before, its quite intimidating to outsiders, as its something that is not seen often. We don't play fair or nice or by the rules when it come to people messing with our children. Our children our responsibility till they reach the age of majority. We take that responsibility exceptionally seriously.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Not necessarily. Assault in my state requires both the intention to cause injury and an actual injury. If one or the other is missing it is not assault.
    :/

    That's messed up.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Whole story? Saw the pics and he admits to it. So its pretty clear cut. And please tell me what a 4 year old could possibly do to deserve that?
    Will some kids test you? Yea, I have friends and relatives who have children they let run wild and then wonder why the kid don't listen. But at 4 I really don't think a child has the mentality to really understand their actions.
    So, if a 4 year old can push an adult that far. They adult is the one that needs correction.
    Its none of our business. I would acquit AP all counts.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Its none of our business. I would acquit AP all counts.
    Um, yea it is once its a crime. Or you are say that anyone that pushes my buttons I am free to take a ball bat to their heads.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Exactly. My dad's a pretty relaxed and rational guy. He simply happens to have a temper. Most guys do.

    That's why it's generally not considered to be a good idea to leave them all alone with small children.

    They're simply not as well equipped to deal with that kind of stress as most women tend to be.

    Don't get me wrong. I know he feels kind of bad about some of it, and he has made a deliberate effort to be more restrained with my younger siblings (I was the first of five).

    However, I don't have any hard feelings over it. Stuff happens, and its not like he was ever "abusive" anyway.
    Statistically anyway women are more likely to abuse children than men.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Really? I beg to differ. My family is very old school that way. Like I said society doesn't get a say in how our children are raised. My family doesn't brook ANY interference from anyone. Court rooms have been filled with my very annoyed kin and our attorneys before, its quite intimidating to outsiders, as its something that is not seen often. We don't play fair or nice or by the rules when it come to people messing with our children. Our children our responsibility till they reach the age of majority. We take that responsibility exceptionally seriously.
    So you believe you own another human being? How does that work exactly?

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Statistically anyway women are more likely to abuse children than men.
    That actually isn't true. More women than men are charged with child abuse, yes.

    However, that is only because more women have access to children in the first place. When one accounts for the difference in population size, men are massively more likely to abuse children than women.

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    Compare the above two calculations with the National Clearinghouse statistics that "[a]mong children in single-parent households, those living with only their fathers were approximately one and two-thirds times more likely to be physically abused than those living with only their mothers."

    So per individual, men abusers are represented by a risk ratio of 1080/90 compared with women who are 70/90.

    So what we have calculated thus far is that, IF, according to incident reports, 70% of all child abuse is committed by women, then adjusting for the different statistical populations and applying our stated assumptions, men are 12 times as likely as women to perpetrate abuse against children, or put another way, they are 1100% more dangerous to children than are women.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Its none of our business. I would acquit AP all counts.
    Why protect anyone if that is your mindset? Quite honestly, most things that happen in this world are not my business. Why is it my business if someone is raped or killed? It's not really. Hell, chances are I won't even know about it.

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