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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    No. No jail no punishment of any kind. I for one would on a jury would acquit a parent for disciplining child regardless the method. You and the rest of society do not get tell me how to raise my children, that is my families responsibility and ours alone.
    You realize that you don't own your children.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Well great, that is your choice as a parent. You don't get to impose your parental choices on other parents unless the actions of those other parents result in the injury or neglect of their children.
    If a woman assaulted me she would have trouble causing me any real injury unless she picked up a weapon of some sort. If I decided to file charges against her the law would still prosecute her for assault. Just because your assault didn't physically injure the individual you assaulted doesn't mean it's not assault. It just means that either you didn't apply enough force to cause injury or you were stopped before injury occurred.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Even to the point of drawing blood and leaving scars. Even once they kid put their hands up and received defensive wounds? At FOUR YEARS OLD?
    Yes. Acquittal all counts. You don't get a say in the rearing of others children. Its none of your business.

    You also don't know the whole story on the AP matter.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    Bears also live in caves and eat out of trash cans.

    Do you live in a cave and eat out of trash cans? I for one am glad we overcame those instincts.
    Whoopidy-doo! We're not bears.

    That's why we don't pick our offspring up with our teeth and shake them like rag-dolls. That kind of thing can have a tendency to make our children... well... dead. lol

    However, it doesn't change the fact that we share a great many instinctual behaviors in common, and those behaviors exist for a reason.

    Modern squeamishness aside, there isn't a damn thing wrong with them as such.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, it's really not harmless. First off, physical assault is never never harmless. Second, it's not at all uncommon for adults to joke around about how they would straighten up when their parent got mad and joke quite openly about their need to avoid being abused. That is not an indication of a healthy loving relationship, but a indication of a relationship built on fear. Lastly, we not bears and I don't care what bears do.
    This is all rather subjective.

    There is no evidence of lasting, or serious, harm caused by spanking.

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Its also common to kill them and eat them.
    What? It's a good source of protein!
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So assaulting someone is ok if they are dependent on you? I'm sensing a logic blackhole. :/
    Frankly, there are a lot of adults out there that would be better off if someone smacked them in the kisser just to get their attention every once in a while.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    I wonder how many of the anti -spanking crowd supports abortion. Which is more harmful to a child a spanking or just killing them outright?

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I feared and respected my father. Yet, he never laid a hand on me. Ever.
    I don't want my children to fear me. It's just not how I want my relationship with them to be built. If it was your father and I found out you were scared of me I would do whatever I could to correct it.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Eh. I was spanked by my mother probably a dozen times or more growing up, and slapped well more than a handful.

    I wouldn't say that it has harmed our relationship in any way, or my development. I'm actually rather close with my mother.

    Now, on the other hand, while I respect the Hell out of my father, my relationship with him was a bit more stand-offish for a long time, even though he only spanked me a fraction of the times my mother did. I think that has to do with their styles of doing so more than anything else.

    My mother was kind of like one of those little Hawaiian volcanoes; constantly fuming, but never really all that dangerous. She was also around a lot more, so there was more loving interaction to balance it out.

    My father, however, worked a lot, so he wasn't around all that much. While he was generally pretty calm, when he did go off, it tended to be like Mount St. Helen's.

    It is worth nothing, though, that this did gradually dissipate and even itself out as I aged into my teen years and young adulthood, and he started treating me as more of an equal than a child.
    Same here. Spankings from mom happened. Not often but they happened. Did not lasting harm and got across her displeasure with my behavior in ways that words couldn't have.

    Dad. Well I never wanted to piss him off that badly. Funny thing is when I became an adult I realized what a pussy cat my dad was.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I don't want my children to fear me. It's just not how I want my relationship with them to be built. If it was your father and I found out you were scared of me I would do whatever I could to correct it.
    Fear is a natural reaction. Its no like he threatened me or anything. I mostly feared letting him down once I got alittle older.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Same here. Spankings from mom happened. Not often but they happened. Did not lasting harm and got across her displeasure with my behavior in ways that words couldn't have.

    Dad. Well I never wanted to piss him off that badly. Funny thing is when I became an adult I realized what a pussy cat my dad was.
    Exactly. My dad's a pretty relaxed and rational guy. He simply happens to have a temper. Most guys do.

    That's why it's generally not considered to be a good idea to leave them all alone with small children.

    They're simply not as well equipped to deal with that kind of stress as most women tend to be.

    Don't get me wrong. I know he feels kind of bad about some of it, and he has made a deliberate effort to be more restrained with my younger siblings (I was the first of five).

    However, I don't have any hard feelings over it. Stuff happens, and its not like he was ever "abusive" anyway.

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