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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    No problem with spanking at all. Never had to spank my daughter though. Now I and my brothers were a different story. 3 boys close in age and well, it was hairy at times, lol. Switches, belts and the bane of children everywhere the good old Hot Wheel track. We needed it though, we did not really respond to threats or silly punishments. I mean it depends on each child.


    Exactly. Every child is different.


    Would you believe I started off with the intention of not spanking? When my son was born, I considered the matter at length and decided to avoid spanking him if at all possible.

    By the time he was 3 I'd come to the conclusion that I might have been in error, as he was a holy terror and no other punishment seemed to make any impression on him. I started spanking him, and very soon I got dramatic results. Not instantly; he was tough and strong willed... but within a few months he began to savvy that bad behavior had bad consequences he preferred to avoid. He recognized that there were limits on how far he could go, and recognizing those limits changed his whole attitude.... frankly not only did he become more manageable, he also went from angry brat to happy-boy within a couple years. By 3rd grade he was a model student, and today he is a very sensible young man who doesn't have to be told that there are consequences to every choice: he sees that for himself.


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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Ok, how about a huge dude picking you off the ground and putting you over his knee. How about they even force you pull down your pants or just do it themselves. Comparable yet?
    Some guy trying to do that to an adult is completely ridiculous. Children and adults have different perspectives. Trying to compare a disciplinary spanking of a child to an assault on an adult is nonsense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You do realize it has been proven to cause psychological damage, right? There is really no debate on the issue at all.
    OK please post the scientific results that say spanking (not abuse) causes psychological damage. Spanking is not abuse if done correctly for the right reasons.

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    Denial is really all you guys have left here. Spanking is just some old bull**** that should have died out centuries ago.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Exactly. Every child is different.


    Would you believe I started off with the intention of not spanking? When my son was born, I considered the matter at length and decided to avoid spanking him if at all possible.

    By the time he was 3 I'd come to the conclusion that I might have been in error, as he was a holy terror and no other punishment seemed to make any impression on him. I started spanking him, and very soon I got dramatic results. Not instantly; he was tough and strong willed... but within a few months he began to savvy that bad behavior had bad consequences he preferred to avoid. He recognized that there were limits on how far he could go, and recognizing those limits changed his whole attitude.... frankly not only did he become more manageable, he also went from angry brat to happy-boy within a couple years. By 3rd grade he was a model student, and today he is a very sensible young man who doesn't have to be told that there are consequences to every choice: he sees that for himself.


    Screw Dr. Spock, it worked for us.
    Oh the horror!
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    No problem with spanking at all. Never had to spank my daughter though. Now I and my brothers were a different story. 3 boys close in age and well, it was hairy at times, lol. Switches, belts and the bane of children everywhere the good old Hot Wheel track. We needed it though, we did not really respond to threats or silly punishments. I mean it depends on each child.
    We really are not talking "spanking", the conversation is in the wake of the whipping Adrian Peterson put on his 4 year old with a switch. Or weapon if it were an adult.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    We really are not talking "spanking", the conversation is in the wake of the whipping Adrian Peterson put on his 4 year old with a switch. Or weapon if it were an adult.

    then the OP should have been more specific than using a generic term like "force" in the poll.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    We really are not talking "spanking", the conversation is in the wake of the whipping Adrian Peterson put on his 4 year old with a switch. Or weapon if it were an adult.
    OK. Did not sound like it though...

    is it ever allowable for a Parent to punish their child with force?

    Spanking or physical discipline is force.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    OK. Did not sound like it though...

    is it ever allowable for a Parent to punish their child with force?

    Spanking or physical discipline is force.
    Its called common sense. Never use "force" while angry or frustrated. Never use a weapon, I don't care how accepted it was however long ago. Lots of things were accepted "way back" that are not acceptable in todays age.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Its called common sense. Never use "force" while angry or frustrated. Never use a weapon, I don't care how accepted it was however long ago. Lots of things were accepted "way back" that are not acceptable in todays age.
    So in other words your comment saying "We really are not talking "spanking"" was not true now was it?

    As I stated it depends on the child and how force is applied. No one said anything about being angry etc. That is your own misconception of my statement. It also has nothing to do with "common sense" as your statement as I have shown was not true.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    So in other words your comment saying "We really are not talking "spanking"" was not true now was it?

    As I stated it depends on the child and how force is applied. No one said anything about being angry etc. That is your own misconception of my statement. It also has nothing to do with "common sense" as your statement as I have shown was not true.
    I made a statement, not a furtherance of your statement.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I made a statement, not a furtherance of your statement.
    You made a statement based on an untrue premise, which led to a flawed conclusion.

    All I did was point out your claim of it being "common sense" was unfounded.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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