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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No. It has nothing to do with what I think. Its a simple reality. You have to be a coward to hit a child as an adult. Simple common sense.
    That is not reality... some children are bigger than their parents, especially many moms.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeside View Post
    It seems like the best corporal punishment today would be to take away their cell phones and computers. No need to raise a hand to a child now. Control their social media outlets instead of raising the hand to them.
    I told a mom once who was having trouble controlling her kid (my student)... she was at her wits end and I asked her if she ever took her daughter's phone away as a consequence and the mom said, "I never thought of doing that". DUH!! I couldn't believe it and knew THAT is why she had problems parenting... lack of consequences. She would tell her kid to go to her room and the kid wouldn't care as she would just text and use the Internet the whole time.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    That is not reality... some children are bigger than their parents, especially many moms.
    Then its good to keep yourself in good shape. Right up to the day he died there was no way I would challenge my father.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    That is not reality... some children are bigger than their parents, especially many moms.
    At least you demonstrate that you can be good at rationalizing.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    but this is not a crime discussion, this is a spanking/physical punishment discussion with regard to children.

    Children might break rules, but how can a child ever (especially at a young age) make rhyme or reason for their parents hugging and embracing them and then those same parents who you rely on for love and comfort go ape**** and take out of branch of a tree/belt/end of wood to beat the crap out of you?

    Yes, children must be punished if they break rules, but to take your hand to them (or something in your hand) gives off the wrong message. It gives off the message that the ones who love you may hurt you. That violence is the best option to punish rule breakers. That using your voice and reason is second/third/forth to a good old beating.

    That kind of message gives a child the wrong message because there is a good chance he will have a negative relationship with that parent, he will repeat the same behaviors in his life (whether it be on the street, in school, in his later relationship or towards his/her own child).

    And there are countless of options parents can take instead of a physical assault on their own flesh and blood to discipline them. The only thing (according to most if not all experts) is that you have to be consequent and that is where most parents fail, especially the beating ones because often that parent is very very angry when they decide to punish that child and act accordingly. Learning out of fear is not a desirable way to teach anything to any living thing.
    Kids who aren't punished w/sufficient severity for their transgressions grow up to be GOP pols, and no parent wants that.

    As for the fear that punishment instills in kids due to violence done to them or the threat of it, as long as the pain inflicted matches the pain the child him/herself inflicted on others as a result of his/her misdeeds, the punishment will only help, not harm, because that kind of punishment (though painful) effectively teaches the child about why he/she shouldn't do it again by forcing him/her to develop empathy for others.

    Punishment is only malevolent when it's out of proportion to the violation committed, and/or when a child is punished for an act that he/she didn't do, or for an act that caused pain but was done for a reason (i. e. possibly in retaliation for another malicious act done to the child). But that rule applies to everyone, not just kids.

    The only key difference between how to punish kids vs. adults is that the intensity of the punishment can be reduced for kids, since children are more psychologically malleable than adults.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Kids who aren't punished w/sufficient severity for their transgressions grow up to be GOP pols, and no parent wants that.

    As for the fear that punishment instills in kids due to violence done to them or the threat of it, as long as the pain inflicted matches the pain the child him/herself inflicted on others as a result of his/her misdeeds, the punishment will only help, not harm, because that kind of punishment (though painful) effectively teaches the child about why he/she shouldn't do it again by forcing him/her to develop empathy for others.

    Punishment is only malevolent when it's out of proportion to the violation committed, and/or when a child is punished for an act that he/she didn't do, or for an act that caused pain but was done for a reason (i. e. possibly in retaliation for another malicious act done to the child). But that rule applies to everyone, not just kids.

    The only key difference between how to punish kids vs. adults is that the intensity of the punishment can be reduced for kids, since children are more psychologically malleable than adults.
    punished with severity does not mean it has to be physical punishment (as in laying your hands on your children).

    Fear of punishment is BS, it does not make for well behaved children but for fearful children who will do their crimes in secret. It also does not teach them to be well behaved and behaving in accordance with the rules when they leave the house and you are no longer able to physically punish them.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Then its good to keep yourself in good shape. Right up to the day he died there was no way I would challenge my father.
    Did he die before 70? I find it hard to believe that a man in his 40's couldn't beat the crap out of anybody over 65 or 70...
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    At least you demonstrate that you can be good at rationalizing.
    Same old Disney... talk to you again in 4 or 5 years.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It doesn't change the facts. Sorry.
    Which you fail to extrapolate. Explain how you have come to the conclusion that I believe that violence is the answer to my problems due to my parents spanking me.


    Otherwise?



    Shut up.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    My son was never struck by anyone as a child. He grew up just fine.
    Anyone who hits a child, for any reason, ought to get one right back in the face from someone much bigger and stronger than they are. Damn cowards. Hitting children is inexcusable.
    He's lucky. I had gotten into 3 fights, not started by me, before I ever even made it to middle school.


    Define hit? Because if you're telling me I can't spank my child, you're bat **** crazy.
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