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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    You are absolutely right, in Dutch "Consequent" means consistent.

    And I am not assuming things. Nine times out of ten the parents will be very calm when beating their child but I have seen myself that parents get angry and frustrated and smack a child.

    I do not think or assume that spanking is the only punishment because that would be a very very bad way of parenting, but I am of the opinion that beating is never an appropriate form of punishing your child.

    And you can justify it and I am not demonizing you for spanking, but I am of the opinion that dr. Phil and countless other experts are right and that corporal punishment is only a short term solution to a problem.
    Everybody here agrees with you.

    Nobody here is talking about beating children.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Actually it is absolutely true...and your analogy involving video games is completely baseless. You may not believe that your Dad smacking you taught you that lesson, but it is clear that it did.
    Clear how?
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    An adult who hits a child is nothing more than a coward.
    That's a real nice opinion you got there.


    You may as well give up. You're not going to change my mind about spanking. We've been doing it for, oh, a couple thousand years now. It's worked so far.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    That's a real nice opinion you got there.


    You may as well give up. You're not going to change my mind about spanking. We've been doing it for, oh, a couple thousand years now. It's worked so far.
    It doesn't change the facts. Sorry.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    That's a real nice opinion you got there.


    You may as well give up. You're not going to change my mind about spanking. We've been doing it for, oh, a couple thousand years now. It's worked so far.
    My son was never struck by anyone as a child. He grew up just fine.
    Anyone who hits a child, for any reason, ought to get one right back in the face from someone much bigger and stronger than they are. Damn cowards. Hitting children is inexcusable.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    My son was never struck by anyone as a child. He grew up just fine.
    Anyone who hits a child, for any reason, ought to get one right back in the face from someone much bigger and stronger than they are. Damn cowards. Hitting children is inexcusable.


    Define hit. If you're including spanking, then your opinion is full of ****.


    Lots of war heroes spanked their children; my father the WW2 vet being one. He was afraid on exactly not one damn thing.

    Lots of men who've proven their courage also spank children. I've BEEN hit in the face by people much bigger and stronger than me and came right back on. And yes, I advocate spanking as a useful tool in parenting under certain circumstances.


    Your narrow nonfactual viewpoint simply ignores reality.


    Once I was in a shopping mall; my toddler was having a meltdown and totally nonresponsive to verbal instruction. I gave him a couple swats on the butt to break the tantrum and get him to refocus. A passing man stopped and stared and appeared about to say something... I said "If you want to be next, by all means, open that mouth."


    He shut it and walked on.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Define hit. If you're including spanking, then your opinion is full of ****.


    Lots of war heroes spanked their children; my father the WW2 vet being one. He was afraid on exactly not one damn thing.

    Lots of men who've proven their courage also spank children. I've BEEN hit in the face by people much bigger and stronger than me and came right back on. And yes, I advocate spanking as a useful tool in parenting under certain circumstances.


    Your narrow nonfactual viewpoint simply ignores reality.


    Once I was in a shopping mall; my toddler was having a meltdown and totally nonresponsive to verbal instruction. I gave him a couple swats on the butt to break the tantrum and get him to refocus. A passing man stopped and stared and appeared about to say something... I said "If you want to be next, by all means, open that mouth."


    He shut it and walked on.
    I don't give a damn how your war hero justified it- I've never hit a child and I'd be ashamed if I ever felt the urge to. I have hit a man who was hitting a child, and hit another man who used to hit his child. I find the idea that an adult should get away with beating a child contemptible. Who but a bully uses physical force against someone much smaller and weaker? Is a child's reaction to being spanked somehow less important than, say, your reaction to being beaten with your arms held?
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Whatever. Too many nonparents throwing in hypothetical opinions. My father used to beat me excessively, my son got spankings as a young child and no long has to to be disciplined to that extent. Dad went too far and I was very stubborn. I agree that the threat of harsh punishment may be needed depending on the temperament of the child. The result is more important than the limitation of the action, especially by armchair quarterbacks. This is absolutely evident in current foriegn policy. The subject determines the method, not the other way around. Too many miss that tripping over their public image rather than adressing the problem.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    That's a real nice opinion you got there.


    You may as well give up. You're not going to change my mind about spanking. We've been doing it for, oh, a couple thousand years now. It's worked so far.
    I'm pretty sure that is an appeal to tradition.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    I don't give a damn how your war hero justified it- I've never hit a child and I'd be ashamed if I ever felt the urge to. I have hit a man who was hitting a child, and hit another man who used to hit his child. I find the idea that an adult should get away with beating a child contemptible. Who but a bully uses physical force against someone much smaller and weaker? Is a child's reaction to being spanked somehow less important than, say, your reaction to being beaten with your arms held?

    Again, you appear to be conflating spanking as equivalent to being violently beaten about the head and ears with fists and boots, when the two are not remotely the same. This is a common reaction among those who have no clue what they are talking about in this debate. You're confusing (either unreasoningly or deliberately) the image of angry out-of-control violence with the use of controlled spanking as a disciplinary tool in some cases.

    And slinging the word "coward" around from the safe anonymity of the Internet is a pretty contemptible habit...

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