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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Umm...it seems pretty obvious he didn't know how to deal with the dog when it refused to move. How was his action really different from someone that spanks their kid when they refuse to obey the rules? All he did was use pain to get the dog to move. Is that not what you are promoting be done to children?
    Are you saying a dogs intelect is on the level as a childs?

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Are you saying a dogs intelect is on the level as a childs?
    No, I'm saying the boy wanted the dog to move and couldn't think of anything that gave him the result he was after. He simply ran out of choices he could think of and more than likely got frustrated at the situation.

    You need to learn to evaluate a situation and put yourself in the kids shoes. Why did he kick the dog when it refused to move? What was he doing before that most likely? What was he after?
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The most devastating punishment I ever gave to my oldest (10, at the time) was right after he lost his temper and went after a cousin with a hammer. I gave him the long stare and said "I am disappointed in you".

    He fell apart instantly with the crying and apologizing.

    I never had to touch him. The 'dad voice, the look, and those words took him apart.

    I built him back up later by giving him special chores to do for his cousin and his aunt. He actually did a very good job as he wanted to redeem himself. Later I told him that I was proud of him for realizing his mistake, doing a good job with the make-up chores, and when I said the words "you aren't in trouble anymore" he started crying in relief.

    IMO if you have to strike a child for anything other than legit self-defense (I've experienced some violent little children let me tell you what I have stories) or just to get their attention, you've already lost the situation.
    That depends on how sensitive the kid is,.

    For example my friend had a daughter that all you had to do was say you were upset with her and she would cry and try and make it up to you.

    If you said that to my niece, she would and, "and???"

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I think of small children like pets, because if you stop and think about it that really is the level they're on.
    Me too and I have no problem smacking one of my dogs when they get out of line, just like the pack leader should do.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Only with an open hand.
    If you need a weapon, you are a loser and have no control over your children.
    Or yourself.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Me too and I have no problem smacking one of my dogs when they get out of line, just like the pack leader should do.
    Hmm. Not trying to judge you or anything, but do you think perhaps he got the idea from you?

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, I'm saying the boy wanted the dog to move and couldn't think of anything that gave him the result he was after. He simply ran out of choices he could think of and more than likely got frustrated at the situation.

    You need to learn to evaluate a situation and put yourself in the kids shoes. Why did he kick the dog when it refused to move? What was he doing before that most likely? What was he after?
    The dog was already leaving. He kicked the dog for no reason at all.

    I know how to evaluate situations.

    He is a mini me and I know what is going on in his head. His mother thinks the things he does are cute, I don't.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Hmm. Not trying to judge you or anything, but do you think perhaps he got the idea from you?
    Not at all.

    I don't kick dogs. Why do people have this idea that kids are not capable of doing things on their own?

    By the way, would it matter if he did learn that from me? He has been told to treat animals well. His decision to not do that means he gets punished.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Not at all.

    I don't kick dogs. Why do people have this idea that kids are not capable of doing things on their own?

    By the way, would it matter if he did learn that from me? He has been told to treat animals well. His decision to not do that means he gets punished.
    If you really go around hitting dogs it's a bit hypocritical to get mad at him for it. I know what you say, but this has nothing to do with me, but doesn't it? Do you really think you can go around slapping dogs and there is no risk of that behavior popping up in your kids?

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Things were a lot easier with my niece. I made it a point to not use bad language around her for years but she raoyally pissed me off one day and I swore at her, and she was shocked into silence. It really made an impression on her and she never did anything like that again.

    My son is different.

    He really doesn't care about the consequences so he does what he wants.

    For example his mother tells me he is so sweet and tender with small animals.

    Well yesterday a neighbor dog was inside my front porch, where he left the gate open, and to get him out he kicked the dog hard inthe rear.

    I saw that and brought him in.

    He really believes it is better to say sorry afterwards that ask permission before.


    Well, based on what you've said... I'd feel a little concerned. A basic psych evaluation might give you a handle on what is going on in his head.... just a thought.

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