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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Don't be coy, you know what I mean. You use a belt, switch, branch or whatever beyond the open hand. You should go to jail.
    So assault is fine, but only if it is done with the hand? The logic abusers use is some of the weirdest **** ever.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Only with an open hand.
    If you need a weapon, you are a loser and have no control over your children.
    I would say the same for a parent who uses an "open hand".

    In my experience, adults who use physical force against children usually do so for one of two reasons: 1. They are ill equipped to be a parent and have not taken the time to learn proper discipline methods or 2. They become extremely frustrated and act out of rage.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    It's up to the individual parents. If parents want to use spanking as a punishment, then that is their right as parents to do so. That doesn't mean they have the right to inflict injury on their kids as a result.

    We spanked our kids when they were younger. To be honest, if I had it to do over again I probably wouldn't have spanked my kids. In retrospect, I don't know that it accomplished anything that other forms of discipline / punishment would have.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The day I even consider beating my children to the point that they bleed or the day I even considering hitting my sons in their genitals is the day someone should report me to the authorities.

    That's the difference I think between me & Adrian.
    Exactly. Spanking's fine, as is the occasional slap, if they deserve it.

    If you're doing either to the point where the child bleeds, however, something is seriously wrong.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Exactly. Spanking's fine, as is the occasional slap, if they deserve it.

    If you're either until the child bleeds, however, something is seriously wrong.
    That is like the logic behind women slapping men. The man deserved it, so it's fine. :/ Assault is assault regardless if someone apparently deserved it. Not sure how you can deserve to be assaulted though. Seems a bit twisted to me.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That is like the logic behind women slapping men. The man deserved it, so it's fine. :/ Assault is assault regardless if someone apparently deserved it. Not sure how you can deserve to be assaulted though. Seems a bit twisted to me.
    It is corrective behavioral training.

    Besides which, it is actually quite common in nature. Mammalian species commonly "cuff" their offspring when they act up.

    It is what it is.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So assaulting someone is ok if they are dependent on you? I'm sensing a logic blackhole. :/
    Not at all what I said. I simply asked if it was OK to withhold support, e.g. evict them, instead of simply putting up with bad behavior. Is it OK to imprison, ground or otherwise attempt to control someone who is not your dependent? You would be hard pressed to secure an assault conviction if spanked (slapped on the bottom) by your parent (or other adult guardian) for misbehaving.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Don't be coy, you know what I mean. You use a belt, switch, branch or whatever beyond the open hand. You should go to jail.
    Not being coy. Why is going beyond the open hand an issue? Why is there an arbitrary differentiation between assault with a hand and assault with a stick? Why is using a stick bad enough to go to jail but open hand is not, regardless of the intensity of the punishment?

    I was (open handedly) spanked as a child, I 'turned out fine' and don't blame my parents in the slightest (it's what they thought was best), I think that discipline by force is an outdated practice. It promotes fear rather than respect and we now know there are other effective means of raising a child.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    It is corrective behavioral training.

    Besides which, it is actually quite common in nature. Mammalian species commonly "cuff" their offspring when they act up.

    It is what it is.
    I don't believe assault corrects behavior in the way you think it does.

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