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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    More baseless rhetoric.

    I'm special because my family has been concerned about each other for generations!

    I'm special because I'm a parent!


    When you no longer rely on personal and family greatness to support child abuse and hypocrisy, let me know.
    Its just his way of justifying beating children. Child abusers almost universally believe that their abuse of children is justified.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    When I was growing up I used to watch my mother babysit and over the years I picked up on a great many little things she did to get children to behave. My mother is a gentle woman that approached parenting in an interesting and highly effective way. It is a way that I adopted myself to a large degree when I had a child of my own. I did this because of how gentle and yet extremely efficient it was. Her main focus was understanding and choice. She would only issue punishment in extreme situations, and besides that she would never punish the children, but focused her attention on understanding. She wanted to know why the kids misbehaved and deal with their reasons, as she felt that many times children misbehaved for reasons they feel strongly about and that those reasons should not simply be ignored and thrown to the side as unimportant. She felt that resolving a problem meant dealing with it's causes and it was important to teach children to deal with their problems in better more peaceful means. Children are not from my experience through all the years run by mindless impulses, but the same things we as adults are. We have to treat them with respect and unconditional love and try our best to replace punishments with reason.
    What your mother did is fine. And what she did worked for her. But that's her and not me or my family. We are different, not better, different. And for us and our family we HAVE to have some discipline. There has to be authority imposed because without it our family as children have little in the way of self control. And that is dangerous for their well being. There is no one parenting method that works for all families.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    What your mother did is fine. And what she did worked for her. But that's her and not me or my family. We are different, not better, different. And for us and our family we HAVE to have some discipline. There has to be authority imposed because without it our family as children have little in the way of self control. And that is dangerous for their well being. There is no one parenting method that works for all families.
    No, not every form of discipline will work. Every kid is differnt, but beating children is wrong in every family for every child. Adults who beat children are some of the lowest scum on the planet. If child abuse really is a proud and true tradition in your family like you are proclaiming it is, then your entire family should be locked up.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    As a parent? I really hope you don't have kids.
    Then you don't have children do you?
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Then you don't have children do you?
    Yea 2 happy, well adjusted kids who aren't abused because I am not a ****ty parent or human being who thinks its ok to beat on defenseless children.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    No, not every form of discipline will work. Every kid is differnt, but beating children is wrong in every family for every child. Adults who beat children are some of the lowest scum on the planet. If child abuse really is a proud and true tradition in your family like you are proclaiming it is, then your entire family should be locked up.
    Beating really? Where did you read that? Do tell. Also what is your version of beating?
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Yea 2 happy, well adjusted kids who aren't abused because I am not a ****ty parent or human being who thinks its ok to beat on defenseless children.
    Good for you. Now tell me again where I said I beat children or for that matter my family as well.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Beating really? Where did you read that? Do tell. Also what is your version of beating?
    I've already went over that. But I'll reiterate. If you are leaving marks on your child that last more than a few hours, you are abusing them.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Good for you. Now tell me again where I said I beat children or for that matter my family as well.
    You can go back and read your own posts. You have pages of them on here.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    I voted no by accident. I think it's wrong to hit children, but I don't think it should be illegal. OTOH, if you leave the kid bruised and/or bleeding, that should be illegal. I haven't read the rest of the thread, but AFAIK, it's always been illegal if you go too far. The OP makes it sound like a new law.
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