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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Obviously we are not doing well in the redemption department. More prisoners learn new ways of committing crime than experience redemption. That's irrelevant to an understanding of the justice system and its goals (protection and redemption - the things that justify society, and not extracting revenge).
    The prison system not only promotes more violence and cruelty, but is by itself violent and cruel. I do not believe that you can teach a man to change their violent ways by placing them in a hell of violence. I think the goal of doing it is naive and will never work.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I'd never use a switch in the first place; use the same amount force that you do with a spanking and you will end up with cuts and bleeding with a switch.
    Not even that much. If you use one especially a thinner one with a bit of heft and length, you have to be careful with those on skin. Too much finesse required. Though the part were they have to pick it is a very good intimidator. I prefer a paddle. I keep several so I still have the intimidation factor of the children having to pick their "demise". You still get the sting but without the risk of cuts and such. Generally after a about 8 or a little thereafter I don't have to use them at all on the children. I have been fortunate not have use them much in the first place. They are still useful though they make great devices for making loud snapping startling noise when I want their undivided attention. Works every time. I highly recommend them for that purpose. Much better than an air horn.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Well if that's not a proclamation of hypocrisy, I don't know what is.
    Sometimes as a parent you have to be one.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The prison system not only promotes more violence and cruelty, but is by itself violent and cruel. I do not believe that you can teach a man to change their violent ways by placing them in a hell of violence. I think the goal of doing it is naive and will never work.
    Of course we need to improve our prison system; nonetheless, incarceration does -in fact- serve to protect society while caning does not.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Sometimes as a parent you have to be one.
    More baseless rhetoric.

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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Corporal Punishment isn't used at all to the same level is use to be. But if we are to believe that spankings are so detrimental to a child's development, then you can't deny that as time has moved on and it has been used less and less, children's frame of mind have been getting worse, not better. At the very least, this demonstrates that the negative repercussions have been blown out of proportions.

    Also, just because one spanks their child, doesn't mean their abused. There's a line there, and any good parent will know it.
    Spanking and beating are not the same thing. If you are leaving marks on your kids that last for very long you are abusing your child. I am baffled at how you and a few others are justifying beating children.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Well if that's not a proclamation of hypocrisy, I don't know what is.
    I was thinking the same thing.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Sometimes as a parent you have to be one.
    As a parent? I really hope you don't have kids.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    When I was growing up I used to watch my mother babysit and over the years I picked up on a great many little things she did to get children to behave. My mother is a gentle woman that approached parenting in an interesting and highly effective way. It is a way that I adopted myself to a large degree when I had a child of my own. I did this because of how gentle and yet extremely efficient it was. Her main focus was understanding and choice. She would only issue punishment in extreme situations, and besides that she would never punish the children, but focused her attention on understanding. She wanted to know why the kids misbehaved and deal with their reasons, as she felt that many times children misbehaved for reasons they feel strongly about and that those reasons should not simply be ignored and thrown to the side as unimportant. She felt that resolving a problem meant dealing with it's causes and it was important to teach children to deal with their problems in better more peaceful means. Children are not from my experience through all my years run by mindless impulses, but the same things we as adults are. We have to treat them with respect and unconditional love and try our best to replace punishments with reason.
    more people should read this.
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    Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Again I ask, what century are we in?
    Looks pretty modern and 21st century if you ask me:



    Caning is a punishment for vandalism and some other relatively minor offenses and despite having the 3rd highest population densities on earth and a very diverse population, they have the lowest crime rate of any nation on earth. So it seems like it works.
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