View Poll Results: Should We Abolish The NEA?

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  • Yes, replace it with nothing.

    23 34.85%
  • Yes, privatize it.

    8 12.12%
  • Yes, localize it and let the states handle it.

    4 6.06%
  • No, keep it.

    22 33.33%
  • No, but it needs strong reforms.

    6 9.09%
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Thread: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    How useful is Michelangelo's statue of David?

    Would you support breaking it up and using it for road fill?
    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by John Mays Lives View Post
    Every great civilization is characterized by the art it produced.
    True, nobody wants to buy cars from a country that celebrates rape tentical demon monsters.

    Cut the NEA ey? Well then you better cut the military too! How about that shyt!? That would save more money!
    I'm down. Cut'm both. Save even more money that way.

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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Why not sell crack, heroin, PCP, and Weed in veding machines inside public schools?

    As far as illegals go:
    The NRC found that the average immigrant household receives $13,326 in federal welfare and pays $10,664.00 in federal taxes. Thus, American taxpayers shell out $2,682.00 for each immigrant household.
    Staggering Cost Of Illegal Aliens In America *

    Your link uses a public opinion poll on how people in Utah feel about immigrants----

    Time to put your boots on and clean out the barn.
    That first line is idiotic. Do we sell alcohol or cigarettes in vending machine inside public schools? Of course not, so stop being silly.

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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Why not sell crack, heroin, PCP, and Weed in veding machines inside public schools?
    Slippery slope much?

    As far as illegals go:
    The NRC found that the average immigrant household receives $13,326 in federal welfare and pays $10,664.00 in federal taxes. Thus, American taxpayers shell out $2,682.00 for each immigrant household.
    Staggering Cost Of Illegal Aliens In America *
    1. That article has no reliable source linked. It's really nothing more than a blog post.

    2. You have yet to source your claim that immigrants kill lots of people. You also have yet to counter my article, which actually had sources, which showed that immigrants actually commit less crimes than natives.

    Your link uses a public opinion poll on how people in Utah feel about immigrants----
    Yes, that was part of the article. Not all of it. Young kiddies with a short attention-span like yours probably can't get past the first paragraph, so I understand where you got stuck.

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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Slippery slope much?



    1. That article has no reliable source linked. It's really nothing more than a blog post.

    2. You have yet to source your claim that immigrants kill lots of people. You also have yet to counter my article, which actually had sources, which showed that immigrants actually commit less crimes than natives.



    Yes, that was part of the article. Not all of it. Young kiddies with a short attention-span like yours probably can't get past the first paragraph, so I understand where you got stuck.
    The Obama Holder regime dosen't like to keep tabs on their coveted illegals, but it can be figured out.

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    The were about 1.7 million illegal aliens in Texas in 2012. Between 2008 to 2012 there were 143,000 illegals arrested and jailed in Texas. So quartering that figure means 35,750 per 1,700,000 or 2.1 %

    So illegal aliens, at least in Texas and probably nationwide are about 3 times more likely to commit crimes. However 100% of the adults are lawbreakers.
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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    I've heard many arguments, from both the left and the right, that the NEA should be abolished for a variety of reasons. Among them I have heard:

    -it is wasteful,

    -it turns art into cultural elitism,

    -it subsidizes obscene and pornographic art

    -it's unconstitutional.

    -it only funds "politically correct" art.

    What do you think? Should the NEA be abolished? If so, what should we replace it with if at all?
    Nothing anywhere in the Constitution even hints at any federal duty or authority to subsidize any form of artistic work; nor does this do anything whatsoever to further any purpose that is relevant to any duties of the federal government. Per the Tenth Amendment, it is rather blatantly unconstitutional for the federal government to have its hands in anything like this.

    It should be abolished, entirely and completely. If states or private organizations wish to create programs to take its place, then that's up to them, but the federal government needs to get out of it and stay out.


    The various other arguments against it are not without merit, but I see these more as examples of what happens when you give the federal government power that it shouldn't have than as direct arguments against this particular usurpation.
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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Most great artists in history died miserable and dirt poor....
    Then perhaps they weren't so great after all, if they couldn't produce enough value to support themselves honestly.
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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Then perhaps they weren't so great after all, if they couldn't produce enough value to support themselves honestly.
    You are applying objective standards to a practice which is subjective by nature. That doesn't work out.

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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Mays Lives View Post
    You are applying objective standards to a practice which is subjective by nature. That doesn't work out.
    All the more reason such a practice should not be supported by taxpayer funding.

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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstone View Post
    All the more reason such a practice should not be supported by taxpayer funding.
    Expound on that, please. I'm not seeing your progression from A to B on that one. How do subjectivity and objectivity play into your reasoning for not supporting cultural advancement?

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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Mays Lives View Post
    Expound on that, please. I'm not seeing your progression from A to B on that one. How do subjectivity and objectivity play into your reasoning for not pporting cultural advancement?
    Where, in the Constitution, does it say anything about the federal government having any responsibility or authority for “supporting cultural advancement”?
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