View Poll Results: Should We Abolish The NEA?

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  • Yes, replace it with nothing.

    23 34.85%
  • Yes, privatize it.

    8 12.12%
  • Yes, localize it and let the states handle it.

    4 6.06%
  • No, keep it.

    22 33.33%
  • No, but it needs strong reforms.

    6 9.09%
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Thread: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    To me, I think you're walking down a path that can very quickly go in a very bad direction when the government is paying for art like that. It's not long before the government is deciding what is and isn't acceptable in art.
    I don't get that at all. There seems to be this idea that financial involvement necessarily means exercising control. It doesn't. If you write into the law to authorize the money that the distribution is content-neutral, then there's no room for that. The government is no more susceptible to abusing its financial contributions to something than a private company. I would even say less so, since a private company has a single unifying goal to make more profit, while our government has a lot of different goals. So why is censorship at the hands of wealthy private interests somehow better than censorship at the hands of government? Especially since the former is more likely than the latter.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Its been around since the Great Society of the 60s. The government has yet to start deciding what is and isn't acceptable art. Most countries have a publicly funded arts endowment. No more money than we spend on it, I don't see anything wrong with it.
    Also this. It's been 50 years. How long is "not long"?
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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I say get rid of it, and privatize it. You know why? Think back to the greatest artists in history; Da Vinci, Michelangelo, Donatello... you know what they all have in common? They were funded not by the government but by private citizens. The Arts will survive without government assistance.

    Edit: Oh and we don't need a propaganda arm for the President do we?

    First, we are supposed to have a limited government and support of the arts isn't enumerated. Second, Hamster is right, the greatest of the greats were financed by individuals or the Church, not government. Keep in mind too that private individuals have funded some amazing works of art in the US. this would, I think, be a great testament to the high value we place on art. Stated otherwise, we don't need a NEA funded by the govt, we like art enough to do it ourselves - history indicates this is rare and I think we can be happy with this.

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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    This static has some interesting background to it. Apparently, the way they came about this (because the government doesn't keep track of this sort of thing) is a report that 28% of people in federal prisons are illegal aliens.
    Well, there you go. And most in fed prisions aren't there for trick or treating without a licence.
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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    They shouldn't be storming crackhouses to begin with, and even so they don't need tanks and grenade launchers to do it.



    Link?


    What a load of bull****.

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    Why not sell crack, heroin, PCP, and Weed in veding machines inside public schools?

    As far as illegals go:
    The NRC found that the average immigrant household receives $13,326 in federal welfare and pays $10,664.00 in federal taxes. Thus, American taxpayers shell out $2,682.00 for each immigrant household.
    Staggering Cost Of Illegal Aliens In America *

    Your link uses a public opinion poll on how people in Utah feel about immigrants----

    Time to put your boots on and clean out the barn.
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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    No, it does plenty of good work. However, that doesn't mean all of the projects it funds turn out to be worthwhile.
    So art mirrors life?

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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Dump the NEA
    Use the savings to pay down the debt, or invest it in by sealing off the Mexican border.
    You cannot be serious .. It would - roughly - cost trillions to "seal" off a border .. and for what ?
    The arts/arts? use up a million or so - I guess its a good investment .
    I voted "other" .

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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    You cannot be serious .. It would - roughly - cost trillions to "seal" off a border .. and for what ?
    The arts/arts? use up a million or so - I guess its a good investment .
    I voted "other" .
    How about a compromise?

    For the artists who need the fed grants and funds, let them work for so many weeks putting up better fences and barriers. They could also sit out in the desert and look for illegals crossing and dope runners. For each alien and drug mule they help capture, they get a certain amount of funds.

    Win- Win.
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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    I don't see it as a useful expenditure

    I'm ok with cutting it


    How useful is Michelangelo's statue of David?

    Would you support breaking it up and using it for road fill?

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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    I've heard many arguments, from both the left and the right, that the NEA should be abolished for a variety of reasons. Among them I have heard:

    -it is wasteful,

    -it turns art into cultural elitism,

    -it subsidizes obscene and pornographic art

    -it's unconstitutional.

    -it only funds "politically correct" art.

    What do you think? Should the NEA be abolished? If so, what should we replace it with if at all?
    It's such a marginal expenditure and I believe there is a civilizational interest in supporting the arts. Keep it.

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    Re: Should The National Endowment For The Arts (NEA) Be Abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    How useful is Michelangelo's statue of David?

    Would you support breaking it up and using it for road fill?
    It's nice to look at. Very good artisan ship

    But ... One does not need a government endowment to create art. There are plenty of other sources of funding such as beautifying parks or government buildings

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