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Thread: Languages are going extinct. Good, bad, or indifferent?

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    Re: Languages are going extinct. Good, bad, or indifferent?

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    Re: Languages are going extinct. Good, bad, or indifferent?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I haven't seen a thread on this and thought it was kind of interesting.

    There was a report recently that up to half of the world's currently spoken languages are in danger of dying out in the next century. Here's an article about it.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/18/wo...-language.html

    The article paints it as a bad thing, but I'm not so sure it is. Fewer languages being spoken around the world means communication with other people gets easier.

    What do you think?
    I'm a fan of the Ender's Game novel series. In the 'Enderverce', all human worlds must conduct official buisness, write all laws, post all municipal signage, and comunicate with foreigners, Starways Common. Other languiges are allowed but are suplimental, and slang within Sarways Common is frowned upon.

    IMO that reflects the utility of a universal business language.

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    Re: Languages are going extinct. Good, bad, or indifferent?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I haven't seen a thread on this and thought it was kind of interesting.

    There was a report recently that up to half of the world's currently spoken languages are in danger of dying out in the next century. Here's an article about it.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/18/wo...-language.html

    The article paints it as a bad thing, but I'm not so sure it is. Fewer languages being spoken around the world means communication with other people gets easier.

    What do you think?
    I don't know if it is good or bad. Languages evolve and get all mixed up as they are. There is no pure language. By that I mean I spent 10 years in Southeast Asia and learned Thai and Lao. In southern Thailand Thai is spoken, as you move further north a lot of Lao get mixed into their language, say from Korat north. Get up along the Mekong, Udorn, Ubon, Mukdahen, what some refer to as Issan, more Lao is spoken with some Thai mixed in. Across the river in Laos it is just the opposite, more Lao than Thai. But all of the people can understand each other and in Laos, they do understand Thai, especially along the Mekong. Get into the northern provinces of Laos, then you get tribal or mountain tribes languages mixed in with Lao and each tribe does have its own language.

    I suppose what I am getting at, sooner or later all that region where I once served will probably be speaking pretty much the same language. Should we fret over the lost of say, pure Lao or Thai or the mountain tribes languages such as Hmong. I don't think so. Now English or English phrases are also part of Thai and Lao. As the world gets smaller, as more and more people from other lands visit, do business with etc. evolution of the languages takes place.

    Now visit my house, I married a Thai, my oldest Daughter married a Laotian and they live right across the road from us. So in my house you will find when we talk it is in all three languages, Thai, Lao and English and usually words of each are mixed into the same sentence. It is not uncommon for the wife to say something in Thai, one of grandkids answer her in English or one of my oldest daughter family answer her in Lao or a combination of all three in their answer. It just happens and no one thinks about it.
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    Re: Languages are going extinct. Good, bad, or indifferent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    The word has too many vowels...

    ... Vancouver Island?
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    Re: Languages are going extinct. Good, bad, or indifferent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Texada island. Three ferries from Vancouver and we call that insulation, not isolation.
    Damn... 1,200 people and two little towns! And I thought I was isolated...

    Beautiful area. I am in a remote part of Taranaki in New Zealand but we don't have to get on a ferry to get to a city... just drive 40 minutes, but then our city has 60,000 people and is nothing like Vancouver.
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    Re: Languages are going extinct. Good, bad, or indifferent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I don't know if it is good or bad. Languages evolve and get all mixed up as they are. There is no pure language. By that I mean I spent 10 years in Southeast Asia and learned Thai and Lao. In southern Thailand Thai is spoken, as you move further north a lot of Lao get mixed into their language, say from Korat north. Get up along the Mekong, Udorn, Ubon, Mukdahen, what some refer to as Issan, more Lao is spoken with some Thai mixed in. Across the river in Laos it is just the opposite, more Lao than Thai. But all of the people can understand each other and in Laos, they do understand Thai, especially along the Mekong. Get into the northern provinces of Laos, then you get tribal or mountain tribes languages mixed in with Lao and each tribe does have its own language.

    I suppose what I am getting at, sooner or later all that region where I once served will probably be speaking pretty much the same language. Should we fret over the lost of say, pure Lao or Thai or the mountain tribes languages such as Hmong. I don't think so. Now English or English phrases are also part of Thai and Lao. As the world gets smaller, as more and more people from other lands visit, do business with etc. evolution of the languages takes place.

    Now visit my house, I married a Thai, my oldest Daughter married a Laotian and they live right across the road from us. So in my house you will find when we talk it is in all three languages, Thai, Lao and English and usually words of each are mixed into the same sentence. It is not uncommon for the wife to say something in Thai, one of grandkids answer her in English or one of my oldest daughter family answer her in Lao or a combination of all three in their answer. It just happens and no one thinks about it.
    Good evening, Pero.

    I can only hope that language specialists are recording the languages, for posterity, that are in danger of being lost. I am thinking of the Gullah language which is unheard outside of South Carolina. The people and their lifestyle is so unique that people have been studying them for years - they have become a tourist attraction, which makes money for their area. And wasn't it the Navajo language speakers during WW2 that totally confused our enemies, enabling our military to keep our plans secret? That unique language saved a lot of lives!

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    Re: Languages are going extinct. Good, bad, or indifferent?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good evening, Pero.

    I can only hope that language specialists are recording the languages, for posterity, that are in danger of being lost. I am thinking of the Gullah language which is unheard outside of South Carolina. The people and their lifestyle is so unique that people have been studying them for years - they have become a tourist attraction, which makes money for their area. And wasn't it the Navajo language speakers during WW2 that totally confused our enemies, enabling our military to keep our plans secret? That unique language saved a lot of lives!
    That it was, the Navajo talkers. It doesn't bother me none to see some of these rather obscure languages disappear. But what does sadden me is none of the grand kids can speak Thai or Lao although they do understand them. But that is the price that is paid to become part of the melting pot.
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    Re: Languages are going extinct. Good, bad, or indifferent?

    And that's what makes English marvelous--it's a melting-pot language. Because it's more fluid than other languages, it thrives.

    And I don't remember who posted this earlier, but Latin isn't quite dead.

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    Re: Languages are going extinct. Good, bad, or indifferent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Damn... 1,200 people and two little towns! And I thought I was isolated...

    Beautiful area. I am in a remote part of Taranaki in New Zealand but we don't have to get on a ferry to get to a city... just drive 40 minutes, but then our city has 60,000 people and is nothing like Vancouver.
    When I go to town it's a half-hour drive and 30 minute ferry to Powell River, pop. about 13,000. That's on the mainland but to go south to Vancouver from there means two ferries across inlets, like fjords. I've heard this coastline compared to New Zeeland- mountains rising out of the sea. It is a beautiful area and a decent climate.
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    Re: Languages are going extinct. Good, bad, or indifferent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Damn... 1,200 people and two little towns! And I thought I was isolated...

    Beautiful area. I am in a remote part of Taranaki in New Zealand but we don't have to get on a ferry to get to a city... just drive 40 minutes, but then our city has 60,000 people and is nothing like Vancouver.
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