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    Should the US Arm and Train the Syrian Rebels?

    Today, Congress is determining if we should give funds to Arm and Train the Syrian Rebels. So that they can fight ISIS. The Problem is the Syrian Rebels are not able to be trusted. They have used Chems and all they care about is removing Assad. Even their top commanders are all for a government that would be acceptable With Sharia Law.

    They will say and do anything to get backing and assistance.....they have also pledged against the US. At least 29 opposition groups. While it is understandable to have the need to take on ISIS. This is a mistake waiting to Happen. What say ye?
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    Re: Should the US Arm and Trian the Syrian Rebels?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Today, Congress is determining if we should give funds to Arm and Train the Syrian Rebels. So that they can fight ISIS. The Problem is the Syrian Rebels are not able to be trusted. They have used Chems and all they care about is removing Assad. Even their top commanders are all for a government that would be acceptable With Sharia Law.

    They will say and do anything to get backing and assistance.....they have also pledged against the US. At least 29 opposition groups. While it is understandable to have the need to take on ISIS. This is a mistake waiting to Happen. What say ye?
    No - what would be the US response if a foreign nation armed or financially supported "rebel groups" inside the US? Do many not object to Putin doing just that in the Ukraine?
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Should the US Arm and Trian the Syrian Rebels?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    No - what would be the US response if a foreign nation armed or financially supported "rebel groups" inside the US? Do many not object to Putin doing just that in the Ukraine?
    Mornin' Ttwtt .....I am with you on not arming and training them. These guys are nothing more than some Sunni Thugs. Even when Assad kicked their ass. They would turn around and go after the Christians inside Syria. Burning down their Churches and going after their people. All due to losing and getting that can of whoop ass thrown upon them.

    Moreover they were all talking **** about the US and that they didn't want intervention. At least 29 groups. The Syrian Rebels are backed by the MB, Qatar and the Saud. Even with all the Saudi money in the world.....their incompetent and worthless. Plus they only want to cause more problems with that Sectarian divide.

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    Re: Should the US Arm and Trian the Syrian Rebels?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Today, Congress is determining if we should give funds to Arm and Train the Syrian Rebels. So that they can fight ISIS. The Problem is the Syrian Rebels are not able to be trusted. They have used Chems and all they care about is removing Assad. Even their top commanders are all for a government that would be acceptable With Sharia Law.

    They will say and do anything to get backing and assistance.....they have also pledged against the US. At least 29 opposition groups. While it is understandable to have the need to take on ISIS. This is a mistake waiting to Happen. What say ye?
    No - we tried this before and all we ended up doing was arming outfits like ISIS anyways. Besides, I'm still very confused why we are trying to fight a battle on two fronts in Syria, one against ISIS and the other against Assad. I really wish we'd let the Assad thing go, if anything this whole situation has taught us, it's better to have the asshole dictators in their to keep control so that organizations like MB and ISIS to take over.

    Besides, how we going to make sure the weapons don't go into the wrong hands... have them promise on the Quran not to give the weapons to the bad guys?
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    Re: Should the US Arm and Trian the Syrian Rebels?

    No, you want something done right ya do it yourself.

    1 month all out operation, destroy everything related to ISIS, destroy/confiscate all weaponry in the area including: artillery, vehicles with mounted weapons, guns, munitions.

    And just get out.

    The best they can do at that point is hit each other with sticks and stones like they hit their women... Animals.

    As for Syria, Assad should be our friend.

    Enough of my ranting anyways.
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    Re: Should the US Arm and Trian the Syrian Rebels?

    Well no, of course we shouldn't, but then we've been doing it all along. The CIA has had training camps in Jordan and Turkey for the Assad opposition forces already.
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    Re: Should the US Arm and Trian the Syrian Rebels?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    No - we tried this before and all we ended up doing was arming outfits like ISIS anyways. Besides, I'm still very confused why we are trying to fight a battle on two fronts in Syria, one against ISIS and the other against Assad. I really wish we'd let the Assad thing go, if anything this whole situation has taught us, it's better to have the asshole dictators in their to keep control so that organizations like MB and ISIS to take over.

    Besides, how we going to make sure the weapons don't go into the wrong hands... have them promise on the Quran not to give the weapons to the bad guys?
    Funny you've argued with me over this so much. Oh well, glad you've come around to acknowledge what I've pointed out all along. The ME would be in far better shape with Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad in power. They all did a FAR better job of containing militant Islamic groups.
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    Re: Should the US Arm and Trian the Syrian Rebels?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' Ttwtt .....I am with you on not arming and training them. These guys are nothing more than some Sunni Thugs. Even when Assad kicked their ass. They would turn around and go after the Christians inside Syria. Burning down their Churches and going after their people. All due to losing and getting that can of whoop ass thrown upon them.

    Moreover they were all talking **** about the US and that they didn't want intervention. At least 29 groups. The Syrian Rebels are backed by the MB, Qatar and the Saud. Even with all the Saudi money in the world.....their incompetent and worthless. Plus they only want to cause more problems with that Sectarian divide.
    We, as a nation, must not fall into doing what Putin is doing - a coalition of nations fighting nations is far different than pretending that a war can be fought inside a nation but not against that nation. The Obama notion that terrorists can be "managed" (without a declaration of war) yet that we "lack resources" to even secure our own border is simply insane. If it takes 3K troops to fight 2K Ebola cases then it surely would take a lot more to fight 30K ISIS cases.
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    Re: Should the US Arm and Train the Syrian Rebels?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Today, Congress is determining if we should give funds to Arm and Train the Syrian Rebels. So that they can fight ISIS. The Problem is the Syrian Rebels are not able to be trusted. They have used Chems and all they care about is removing Assad. Even their top commanders are all for a government that would be acceptable With Sharia Law.

    They will say and do anything to get backing and assistance.....they have also pledged against the US. At least 29 opposition groups. While it is understandable to have the need to take on ISIS. This is a mistake waiting to Happen. What say ye?
    No, we shouldn't. History has shown none of these tribal groups can be trusted. It's the history of their people. They would sell their Mothers into prostitution if it got the right return on their investment. I certainly don't understand such a mindset, but it certainly seems to be the case.

    If we train and arm the rebels, they will most certainly be our enemies down the road. Not sure how many more examples we need to understand this reality.

    A campaign of annihilation via our superior technology is the only thing I can see that should be used against this I-bola plague.

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    Re: Should the US Arm and Trian the Syrian Rebels?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    No - we tried this before and all we ended up doing was arming outfits like ISIS anyways. Besides, I'm still very confused why we are trying to fight a battle on two fronts in Syria, one against ISIS and the other against Assad. I really wish we'd let the Assad thing go, if anything this whole situation has taught us, it's better to have the asshole dictators in their to keep control so that organizations like MB and ISIS to take over.

    Besides, how we going to make sure the weapons don't go into the wrong hands... have them promise on the Quran not to give the weapons to the bad guys?


    Its clear we cannot prevent these MB backed Rebels/Terrorists from giving weapons to others.....they gave weapons to al Nusra and did so the whole time we were arming them.

    Now check this out with what al Nusra has done. They are associated to the MB backed Syrian Rebels.....also AQ and Now ISIS.



    Syrian rebels seize UN weapons in the Golan: ambassador.....



    Syrian rebels linked to Al-Qaeda have seized UN weapons, uniforms and vehicles from peacekeepers in the Golan and set up a "safe zone" to wage attacks, the Syrian ambassador said Tuesday. The United Nations on Monday was forced to pull back hundreds of peacekeepers to the Israeli-occupied sector of the Golan after Syrian rebels advanced on their positions.

    Syrian Ambassador Bashar Jaafari said fighters from Al-Nusra "had succeeded in occupying all of the Syrian side" of the Golan, driving out the troops from the UN Disengagement Observer Force (UNDOF). "The terrorists are now using United Nations cars, which hold the emblem of the United Nations forces in the Golan. They are using the uniform of the UNDOF, the weapons of UNDOF, the positions of UNDOR to shell on the Syrian army as well as on the civilians in villages," Jaafari told reporters. Jaafari accused Israel, Qatar and Jordan of being behind a "very big plot" to destabilize Syria by letting the Syrian rebels take control of part of the buffer to set up a "safe zone" from where it can wage attacks.....snip~

    Syrian rebels seize UN weapons in the Golan: ambassador

    These MB backed Syrian Rebels can't be trusted.....al Nusra does their heavy fighting. Both Republicans and Democrats need to say no funding.
    Last edited by MMC; 09-17-14 at 11:42 AM.

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