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    Re: Should the US Arm and Train the Syrian Rebels?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Most of the Syrian Rebels are either AQ or ISIS or has ties to AQ and ISIS. The moderate Islamist Rebels are very small if they really existed. Secular Islamist Rebels, even the name of the moderates makes me wonder. Perhaps it is a name chosen by them because that is exactly what we want to believe.

    Isn't it ironic that the Obama administration is participating and organizing or trying to all these regime changes.


    Yeah they do keep falling back to the term Moderates.....look up that thread. In Honor of the Syrian Rebels. We have all their groups listed. Quite a bit of Info in there and all things that BO and his team knew about.

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    Re: Should the US Arm and Train the Syrian Rebels?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Mays Lives View Post
    I didn't make a comment about them pledging against the US. I strictly commented on their form of government they choose. If you'll read again, you'll also notice that it came with some very specific conditions such as not threatening our assets, respecting our embassy and playing nice diplomatically.

    As for them pledging against the US, that would mean all bets are off and we don't arm or train. In fact, we go in with our own troops, do it for them and in compensation, dictate to them what government they will have and how their resources will be spent.

    Yeah I knew you didn't.....but then you got to the part about not listening to us. Like they did when they used the Chems.

    There I agree with you. It will take our troops in Iraq on the ground.

    Although....today BO was using some bass in his voice and talking about make no Mistake the troops in Iraq on the ground will not Be used for Combat. Even after all have told him.....this was the Best Solution he asked for.

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    Re: Should the US Arm and Trian the Syrian Rebels?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Yeah but look what happened to the MB back then. I know we like to just think of MB as the crazy guys who took over Egypt for a short period of time, but back when they were a political party, there were banned from the country, made a capital punishment to be a part of the party. If that **** happened here, I'd probably be supporting them... at least up until the point the were going to cut my head off at least.

    Nah, the MB(Sunni) has always been crazy(those Clerics who think they are more than what they really are).....that's why Gadhafi was about keeping them out of Libya politics. But then they finally found a way around him. Especially once they knew he had backing from those in Africa for a United states of Africa.

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    Re: Should the US Arm and Trian the Syrian Rebels?

    Trian? Triangulate? Train? Brian? Brain?
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    Re: Should the US Arm and Trian the Syrian Rebels?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Nah, the MB(Sunni) has always been crazy(those Clerics who think they are more than what they really are).....that's why Gadhafi was about keeping them out of Libya politics. But then they finally found a way around him. Especially once they knew he had backing from those in Africa for a United states of Africa.
    This where I'm torn on this issue, and am not really sure where to be. In the US, we've had our fair share of crazies as well. The first and more prominent that come to mind is the KKK. There was a point in time in this country where they had a dominant influence in American politics. The peak being back in the early 1900's when you had that huge march of their's on DC. But as time moved along, we eventually came to realize as a society just how hateful that organization was.

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    I'd like to think the same could happened in the ME. But the problem is, that I don't believe it would occur until after we suffered another attack on the homeland, or at the very least Israel was burning.

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    Re: Should the US Arm and Train the Syrian Rebels?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah I knew you didn't.....but then you got to the part about not listening to us. Like they did when they used the Chems.

    There I agree with you. It will take our troops in Iraq on the ground.

    Although....today BO was using some bass in his voice and talking about make no Mistake the troops in Iraq on the ground will not Be used for Combat. Even after all have told him.....this was the Best Solution he asked for.
    Well I've never suffered any illusion that BO will make a sound decision regarding this conflict. Take that how you will.

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    Re: Should the US Arm and Train the Syrian Rebels?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Today, Congress is determining if we should give funds to Arm and Train the Syrian Rebels. So that they can fight ISIS. The Problem is the Syrian Rebels are not able to be trusted. They have used Chems and all they care about is removing Assad. Even their top commanders are all for a government that would be acceptable With Sharia Law.

    They will say and do anything to get backing and assistance.....they have also pledged against the US. At least 29 opposition groups. While it is understandable to have the need to take on ISIS. This is a mistake waiting to Happen. What say ye?

    I believe we should arm and train the Syrians and anybody else in the area that so desires, for a price why should they get such valuable knowledge and equipment for free. If they got cold hard cash we have available time and goods.
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    Re: Should the US Arm and Trian the Syrian Rebels?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The last CIA assessment put the total number at about 31k. Even if it were 30k in Iraq, my point still stands. If an active force of 271,500 trained military personnel cannot defeat a bunch of untrained thugs numbering around 30,000, then what is the point of helping them? If the Iraqi military is that weak and ineffective, then even if we killed every member of ISIS, some other bunch of Islamists would just rise up and take their place.
    You have a valid point. One of the big problems with the Iraqi Army is Maliki replaced a huge number of career officers with his cronies who were loyal to Maliki, but didn't know what the heck they were doing militarily. Without good leaders, it really doesn't matter what size the army is. What our bombing is doing, at least up to now is trying to keep a stalemate in place while we train new leaders or the new government recalls the old good career leaders to replace the loyal cronies Maliki put in charge.

    Will it work? Who knows? The Kurds on the other hand are more than willing to fight ISIS and they have been successful with our help. But they do not want to venture far from their homeland, which leaves the rest of Iraq to the new government and hopefully a better lead force. But there are tons of questions yet to be answered.
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    Re: Should the US Arm and Trian the Syrian Rebels?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Then why wasn't the Christians ever part of those beginning Demonstrations? Just why was the MB allowed to set up protests calling for Democratic Reform? In which many of them were exiled from Syria by Assad's Father. Which was after Pelosi and the Demos were running around at the End of Bush' term and calling Assad a Reformer. Also Assad gave Amnesty to those with no connection to the MB.

    Also after the Sunni Rebels Suffered one of their first defeats.....they then went and attacked the Christians burning down their Churches and homes. Again they used Chems like Assad did. They don't care about the people.....and its been shown in their actions.

    All that talking they do is front of the Camera is thru Al Jazeera and thru Sunni Communications and Broadcasting.
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    Re: Should the US Arm and Train the Syrian Rebels?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah they do keep falling back to the term Moderates.....look up that thread. In Honor of the Syrian Rebels. We have all their groups listed. Quite a bit of Info in there and all things that BO and his team knew about.
    If I have my numbers right, there is around 5,000 Syrian moderates that we will be equiping and training. They are up against 30,000 man ISIS and the whole Syrian army estimated at 250,000 men. That is not too good of odds. At least those are the numbers the CIA released.
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