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    Do you think its time to start discussing an Ebola quarantine?

    A registered nurse and were talking about the president's announcement to assign thousands of US Military troops to fight Ebola. She was baffled saying it isn't a military matter, its a medical matter. The topic of quarantine came up. In our nice guy culture I would we have the will to essentially sentence people to involuntary confinement for the greater good or would be endanger the lives of millions for not having the will to make hard choices?
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    Re: Do you think its time to start discussing an Ebola quarantine?

    Do you believe that the govt doesnt have plans for this already? I'm not saying they are good plans or plans that will succeed but they definitely have them.

    And it will be incredibly ugly. It starts with strictly curtailing personal liberty without due process and it goes to shooting American citizens that attempt to break thru quarantine barriers.

    Do we have the will for that is a good question. But....who's will are we talking about? The govt will assert its will, supposedly with the greater good in mind...saving the most people.

    The troops and National Guard and police sent to enforce that will...it will come down to heir own will.

    Like I said. Ugly.
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    Re: Do you think its time to start discussing an Ebola quarantine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    A registered nurse and were talking about the president's announcement to assign thousands of US Military troops to fight Ebola. She was baffled saying it isn't a military matter, its a medical matter. The topic of quarantine came up. In our nice guy culture I would we have the will to essentially sentence people to involuntary confinement for the greater good or would be endanger the lives of millions for not having the will to make hard choices?
    The US military is uniquely qualified and prepared to deal with biological hazards in a medical setting. US military medical personnel are some of the most highly qualified medical personnel in the world to deal with training local medical staff to deal with Ebola or any biological hazard.

    The US military can build clinics and hospitals faster than any other construction type organization you can name.

    And, that's what they will be doing - building hospitals and clinics as well as training locals on how to treat Ebola patients without getting infected themselves.

    So, unlike many instances that the US military is sent in to perform what some feel should be a civilian mission, in this instance, it makes perfect sense to use the US military given their unique qualifications and the unique hazards present.

    And, as for the poll question - there are numerous plans in place already. At federal, state and local levels.

    Here's one that I've been working on under a contract I have: http://www.msema.org/wp-content/uplo...identAnnex.pdf
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    Re: Do you think its time to start discussing an Ebola quarantine?

    Naaaa.

    Let it be free..thins out the heard.

    Gets rid of the riffraff.

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    Re: Do you think its time to start discussing an Ebola quarantine?

    Ebola is not "highly contagious" as the op claims, simple precautions will stop the spread. However people in Africa are superstitious and don't trust doctors and that is causing the continuing spread.

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    Re: Do you think its time to start discussing an Ebola quarantine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Ebola is not "highly contagious" as the op claims, simple precautions will stop the spread. However people in Africa are superstitious and don't trust doctors and that is causing the continuing spread.
    I don't know if a lot of people realize just how bad the healthcare system is in these countries and many others in Africa. They have almost no medical infrastructure outside of their capitals. Its mostly just a smattering of small concrete "clinics" with no electricity or running water. Places where a real doctor might swing by once a month and are usually only manned by volunteers with an elementary education and no formal medical training. Its not that people don't trust doctors; its that there just aren't very many and absolutely no truly adequate facilities. Instead they usually have to rely on the aid of NGOs, IGOs, and charitable organizations when and where they provide it.
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    Re: Do you think its time to start discussing an Ebola quarantine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Ebola is not "highly contagious" as the op claims, simple precautions will stop the spread. However people in Africa are superstitious and don't trust doctors and that is causing the continuing spread.
    The reason is spreads so easily in Africa is because the people there bring their dead home and prepare the bodies for burial. Entire families get wiped out that way. In the hospitals, they also often have to care for their relatives....bringing them and changing their sheets, bring food and feed them, bring them their bedpans, etc.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think its time to start discussing an Ebola quarantine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    The reason is spreads so easily in Africa is because the people there bring their dead home and prepare the bodies for burial. Entire families get wiped out that way. In the hospitals, they also often have to care for their relatives....bringing them and changing their sheets, bring food and feed them, bring them their bedpans, etc.
    exactly my point death superstitions are exacerbating the problem and all it would take is some latex gloves and masks the outbreak would die down quickly

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    Re: Do you think its time to start discussing an Ebola quarantine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    exactly my point death superstitions are exacerbating the problem and all it would take is some latex gloves and masks the outbreak would die down quickly
    I'm not sure it's that simple but that would help if you could supply them and convince them to use them.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Do you think its time to start discussing an Ebola quarantine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Ebola is not "highly contagious" as the op claims, simple precautions will stop the spread. However people in Africa are superstitious and don't trust doctors and that is causing the continuing spread.

    If highly educated and trained doctors can get Ebola then what is to stop some idiots here in the US from spreading it around?
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